Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Can't let this slide....

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Settle the score in most ruthless, barbaric and inhumane manner. These cowards even haven't accepted their own losses teach them a lesson that gets recorded everywhere.
 
for al the people advicating killing Indian civilians:

"Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person. Do not destroy trees and do not destroy inhabited places" (Sahih Muslim, Book 15, Hadith 2614)

"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors." (Qur'an 2:190)

Salahuddin Ayubi put a cross back into its place in the church, after conquering Jerusalem, after his sister was murdered in a raid by the same Christian army, 2 days prior. That's who we are. Our people go to Jannah as shaheeds and we are proud of it. We do not kill innocent civilians in rage for why our people died.

So that closes that topic of attacking Indian civilians as 'revenge'. Now lets focus on the actual targets. Indian army bases / airfields and military targets


You hit the breeding grounds of Hindutva ideology, the RSS infrastructure, not civilians targets as per say. Indians are giving narrative to world that they struck, "Islamic terrorism" hubs inside Pakistan, and this is completely unacceptable. By all means hit Indian military targets, but we MUST hit Hindutva nerve centres in India as part of the package.

You want to deter Indian establishment in future, hit them where it hit most. Narrative, symbolism is part of warfare now, we better catch up.
 
The reality is- We all know the PAF is extremely well trained. However, on the other hand, its not like the IAF was lacking in its training- they were trained by the very same french pilots that your pilots are being trained by.

Whats good though is we've got something to gauge the performance of Chinese platforms against. This is big stuff, very big stuff.
Last time the French trained Pakistani pilots was in the 1960s. PAF has developed an organic training philosophy and curriculum and we don’t need the west to train us.
 
All Indian strikes were air to ground munition.
SCALP cruise missile and HAMMER glide bombs.

Ahmedpur Sharqia Subhan Masjid.
4x weapons hit.
13x casualties. Including an infant.

MuzaffarAbad

7x munitions hit.
Masjid e Bilal.
1x casualty.



Kotli AJK

5x Munitions hit .
A Masjid
2x Casualties.



Muridke near Lahore

Amalpura Masjid
4x munitions hit
2x Casualties


Kotli Loharq Sialkot

2x munitions
No casualty

Shakar Garh

2x munitions on a dispensary
No casualty but injuries

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From Pakistan side 5x Indian jets shot.
4x with air to air missiles.
Out of which 3x with PL 15 , fired by J 10 and Block 3 If 17.
1x Indian jet by AMRAAM.
1x with Surface to air long range missile.
1x Indian drone shot down by shoulder fired small missile.
 
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The reality is- We all know the PAF is extremely well trained. However, on the other hand, its not like the IAF was lacking in its training- they were trained by the very same french pilots that your pilots are being trained by.

Whats good though is we've got something to gauge the performance of Chinese platforms against. This is big stuff, very big stuff.
It sure is very big stuff,like you said. We rarely have air-to-air combat anymore. We mostly have modern air forces bombing terrorists and militias. We also had 30 years of Greek and Turkish air forces in mock dogfights that sometimes unfortunately turned very real.

I wonder,didn't the French think of their reputation when they were selling the Rafale to the Indians? Yes,there was A LOT of money involved,they needed to boost sales,but look at this now. The IAF's bad record should have told them something.
 
Last time the French trained Pakistani pilots was in the 1960s. PAF has developed an organic training philosophy and curriculum and we don’t need the west to train us.
yes- however it would be disingenuous to suggest that PAF training/tactics is not based off of the western ways
 
AND ENOUGH OF THIS RESTRAINT RESTRAINT RESTRAINT. WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOOT DOWN 10 INDIAN JETS, THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS CONSTANT RESTRAINT. THEY ARE THE AGGRESSOR SO FCUK THEM!!!!
 
You can throw insults all you want, but it doesn’t change facts. J-10C is a top-tier platform and PAF has shown it works in real scenarios. Rafale’s not untouchable, and pretending otherwise just sounds like denial.
Malaka I'm not an Indian to say that J-10 is garbage nor did I claim that Rafale is untouchable. Remember how they boasted about the Su-30 a few years ago? It was the superweapon. Then their new superweapon was Rafale. Then it was Tejas.
Every 10 years the Indians have a new superweapon.
 

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