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Highest level of treason this would be if this happens

This, my friend, has already happened, whether we like it or not. There won’t be any strikes by Pakistan on India...
.. Pakistanis will keep trying to prove they downed Indian jets, while India will outright deny it. Meanwhile, what India did has already been officially acknowledged by Pakistan.
 
Rafale ?

wrs the rest of it ?

no expert here but, couldn't that be a brahmos maybe ?
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You can compare the bolt pattern on exhaust nozzle.
And other debris are scattered around I just posted the pic of the engine.
Now plz don't tell me your Mighty brahmos also hosts pilots as there is footage of the pilots being taken out of the same crash site.
But its high G anything is possible.
 
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There's at least 4 indian fighter jets destroyed - 3 in IoK, and one in Punjab (all 4 reported by indians themselves). From the visuals, at least 1 Rafale, and at least one Mig-29 or Su-30MKI. If any of these crash sites were of PAF planes, believe me, we would have known by now with the indians hysterical :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Pakistan would be signing its own death sentence with this

Indians would be emboldened
BLA would be emboldened
Any event in Kashmir would be responsibility of Pakistan

Highest level of treason this would be if this happens
Because we have traitors in our govt unfortunately
 
Indian Brigade HQ still burning after Pakistani strike .

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It sure is very big stuff,like you said. We rarely have air-to-air combat anymore. We mostly have modern air forces bombing terrorists and militias. We also had 30 years of Greek and Turkish air forces in mock dogfights that sometimes unfortunately turned very real.

I wonder,didn't the French think of their reputation when they were selling the Rafale to the Indians? Yes,there was A LOT of money involved,they needed to boost sales,but look at this now. The IAF's bad record should have told them something.


Rafale is a very good multi role fighter jet whose ground attack capability is certainly better than j10c! However, j10c has better radar and longer range air to air missile! J10c can kill rafale but the latter cannot kill the former! The PL-15 air to air missiles gives it more advantage on air combat. Greece and Turkey s Mock dogfights are all good not sane as real combat conditions. Rafale users from today you will look at this bird differently she is not what she was made out to be by Dassault! Turkish airforce will be already in contact with PAF. Yes we can put this down has an isolated incident by IAF but I believe this has huge ramifications for all Rafale users around the world!
 
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scattered while walling from 30,000ft id presume...

M88 engine will have had to come there- unless you've started growing them
Ok, lets see in the days ahead what comes of it. Doubt such a loss can be covered up.. only 36 so far, right ?
 
By your logic Pakistan should hand over the nukes to the US like they’ve been asking. Nukes will mostly kill civilians. By what logic is Pakistan hanging on to nukes if killing civilians is haram?

Iran also issued a fatwa to ban nukes. Libya and Ukraine also got rid of them. Let’s all be friends.

You should ask Pakistani state to answer this question. I wouldn't wish for me to be the person who has to press that red or black button and decide fate of this region, neither I would want it for anyone else.

But no matter what your argument still doesn't justify your call for Kitaal of piss poor, ignorant, malnourished, poverty stricken indian souls who are victim of sheer propaganda, misinformation and strong inferiority complex.
 
They will share it with someone who can for adequate price.
Don't worry about it.

All missiles, there is some delicate design in them.

The missiles on the racks that have not yet been fired after a fighter jet is hit still have high research value.
Some of the malfunctioning missiles that were fired but did not explode have some research value.
Missile debris from a normal explosion after launch has no research value.
 

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