Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[FHN]

The French must be really mad at India. From this point on, any foreign company that deals with the Indian Air Force will be risking its reputation.

 

[Ak01]

Guys please download all such videos from X and Tiktok.
India will get them removed.

i have been doing so

 

[Sharma Ji]

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[Kharral]

Pakistan has to retaliate there is no way around, this is purely an act of war that can't be ignored, I believe they targeted neelum hydro power, I wonder how much damage the Indians have caused. If Pakistan doesn't strike back Indians will become more belligerent.

That’s a very good grey zone operation by our side. The narrative is already laid out for a Strategic reply.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

By the way if you say that your top fighter jet tends to tear apart during High G manoeuvring what does it say about that aircrafts built quality?

Sell your weapons to Bharat along with your honor, prestige and confidence....

 

[hyperman]

I don't know if the radar on the J-10C is better or if the PL-15 gives it an advantage. Theoretically,a Rafale equipped with Meteor should be able to kick ass. Again,theoretically. Now,we have to know the conditions of and if they were shot down and with what. I mean,neither side will say the truth right now. Remember how Ukrainians were talking about the Ghost of Kiev and Russians shooting down a gazillion missiles.

AWACS. Pakistan has Chinese AWACS that are able to integrate with Chinese J-10Cs better. probably easier to guide a PL-15 and shoot from maximum distance while retaining a lock.

India has a hodgepodge of military equipment from various sources, idk how well the Israeli AWACS is integrated with Russian and French fighters.

 

[I*R*A]

I haven’t called for killing civilians at all. I’ve suggested that Hindu extremists be declared terrorists and hunted down. Regarding the permissibility of killing civilians in a war, I’m not an Islamic or legal expert. However, I have seen for the last couple of decades the civilized world remorselessly killing Muslim women and children without limit. Some estimates have suggested that 10 million Muslims have been killed since 9/11.

If we want to take away the fear of retaliation from the enemy then so be it. India has just killed Pakistani women and children. Let’s reassure them that we won’t touch their women and children.

I have stated multiple times in this thread that Pakistan has no option but to retaliate, no retaliation and no response to this naked aggression is N/A if we wish to remain a sovereign proud nation and country.

For killing these khaki chadi terrorists, I am all for the way we do it in other places.

 

[PakSword]

Not really.
They killed Pakistani citizens inside Pakistan. That needs to be averaged.
Defence isn't a revenge.
Offence is.

You say Pakistani citizens matter? At this crucial time, look what the Supreme Court has done. I thought this Indian attack has given them (the masters) a golden opportunity to salvage some respect, and they did because we are emotional people.

 

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[hussain0216]

About possible Pakistan strikes against India

As I said earlier, we are all on the descalation ladder now, I think India is shocked
The population is delusional and the media is toxic, but the Indian military and airforce are stunned

Because they don't know how Pakistan managed to kill 5+ Indian jets without losing anything
And it was a combination of tactics, pilot skill and training, the right weapons and jets and EW

India would be STUPID to want to re-engage, they need time away to think and work out why IAF is failing

In the last 5 years Pakistan has now shot down 6-7 Indian aircraft, without a Indian response

If Pakistan goes onto the J35 and KAAN and Pfx whilst India dicks around with tejas and possibly more rafales then they are screwed


Second, let's be clear, we don't know what Pakistan bombed yesterday
We don't have the list, how many targets did we hit, what we fired

So whilst I want a brutal response, that response may ALREADY have been given with Indian bases and other targets hit and the IAF humiliated



We just need to calm down, war is pain and Pakistan needs to restablish deterrence
But with shooting down so many IAF jets and the heavy response all night we have established deterrence

The Indian military understands this, they tried to explain it to modi and co
But because of their delusional sanghi population they forced themselves into a corner and have now ended up being humiliated

 

[Ak01]

AWACS. Pakistan has Chinese AWACS that are able to integrate with Chinese J-10Cs better. probably easier to guide a PL-15 and shoot from maximum distance while retaining a lock.

India has a hodgepodge of military equipment from various sources, idk how well the Israeli AWACS is integrated with Russian and French fighters.

Negative- ZDK-03 retired. PAF uses erieyes and erieyes only.

 

[mulj]

- For the friends that want to attack civilians on the other side of the border, like many have pointed out -- its not allowed in Islam and it is against humanity to target civilians.

- Ofcourse, a response strike is warranted, however -- just going and taking out soft targets isn't the way. Pakistan is not Israel where it can go out and take out innocents and hardly faces any consequence, any reaction focusing on soft targets would be like inviting other actors i.e. the west/Russia to take India's side and whereby the de-escalation resulting from this current standoff may favor India. In fact, if it de-escalated at this very point, it still favors India as they have unilaterally removed themselves from the IWT, as well as the revocation of the article 370.

- I'm no fan of the current Mil-Establishment, however the press conference by the DGISPR was actually quite good if one actually thinks about it. Special mention of the attacks being across LOC and the international border, as well as targeting Neelum Jehlum project etc. and the damage report including all casualties and their details etc. Thats the damage report + indication, that look the opposition has done so and so, and if Pakistan does the same XYZ, it would be completely in its right to do so, as it would not be a provocation but a tit for tat.

- However, the statements by the civilian leadership are without a doubt a slap to the face of the nation, where they say that "The response has already been given". Unless it is a diversion, I don't know if people will ever forget that Pakistan was attacked and it did nothing. Even if we did, India and other elements will be emboldened and we'll probably see this sort of action every 5-7 years or so. Talk about snatching a loss from a victory on the ground.

-Im not sure if the response comes in immediately, or is it Pakistan's turn to play hide and seek, and when it senses fatigue and the enemy drops the level of urgency, it strikes (similar to what Iran did to Israel, and Israel did back to Iran).

- Whatever maybe the case, as it stands, IAF effed around and found out with multiple of its crown jewels tasting the dust. The raptor of the east once again being the craptor of the east, the Mig-29 that IAF once thought was the answer for the F-16 and the mighty rafale "agar raphale hota" . I dunno if the M2k was shot down or not, but the fact remains, while they were able to get their weapons off and kill our civilians --- the mighty IAF got a reality check.

Indian civilians under bjp rss umbrella are fair target as they are fundamentally more dangerous then indian military.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

AWACS. Pakistan has Chinese AWACS that are able to integrate with Chinese J-10Cs better. probably easier to guide a PL-15 and shoot from maximum distance while retaining a lock.

India has a hodgepodge of military equipment from various sources, idk how well the Israeli AWACS is integrated with Russian and French fighters.

Please don't rule out the top-notch & secret Chinese spy sats with very specialized sensors that are locked over the subcontinent in massive numbers....

 

[Areesh]

A dangerous narrative is being pushed.

Muhammad Malick on Ary News suggested that we can de-escalate if India backs down from its suspension of Indus Water Treaty.

Lanat hai

Baisharam

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Is pakistan going to retaliate

lets wait and see brother, However national security consul gave a free hand to Pak military to retaliate