Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

The equation is simple - India wants no response after what’s already been done otherwise it is threatening to go all out with their preplanned attack areas.
From a pure paper perspective Pakistan has no hope for victory in that scenario but so far paper has been less than accurate

Yes, India was very quick to suggest a de-escalation by officially saying that they didn't target civilians or Pakistani economy or Pakistani military. But they did attack Pakistan, knowing Pakistan would quickly respond, which Pakistan did against the Indian aircrafts and in IoK. Maybe Indians were hoping to wash-away the Abhinandan 2019 stigma by shooting down a Pakistani aircraft but that seemed to have majorly gone wrong--totally opposite.
You know, only about 24 hours ago, Indians here were saying nothing was going to happen and maybe just the Indians wanted to deplete the Pakistani resources via prolonged heightened alert. But we have gone past that stage and the initiative is with Pakistan now to respond.
We need to understand India's end game here. Really need to understand that. There is something driving the Indian over-reaction on Pahalgam unless they have become victim to their own propaganda and delusions.
 
Pakistan has locked its targets, we will hit them so hard this time that they won’t dare to commit another misadventure for decades to come. This night will be a sleepless one for the RSS andbhakts. Place your trust in your armed forces and have faith in Allah; victory, InshaAllah, will belong to the followers of the Kalma.
Lol, this seems more like Pakistan has locked its targets and kept them somewhere safe....
 
I have read every page to this point.
Conclusion:

-IAF planes shot down. Numbers and exact type debatable. Some say 3 some say upwards of 5. However rafale should be renamed raffle-ticket, such is its odds of doing anything useful. Raffle parts -- air refueling probe, engines and missile pilons -- strewn across India.

-no evidence of PAF casualties.

- Mosques hit in Pakistan proper. Civilians killed. No investigation. Attackers not even caught, still on the loose. Hallmarks of false flag. Probably brahmos. This cannot be intercepted. This is a very serious development, they've clearly taken advice from Israel thinking this is an acceptable and normal way to behave. This sets a dangerous mandate, that essentially anything can be deemed "Islamic terror" and as such anything is fair game. They care not for civilians.

THIS CANNOT GO UNANSWERED.
MY HOPES ARE THAT RAS HEADQUARTERS ARE OBLITERATED.
I REPEAT....PAKISTAN MUST RESPOND IN KIND. OPTICS ARE KEY.

- PAF actions in defence. Pakistani response yet to come.

- some say water infrastructure in Pakistan targeted. Pictures show limited damage....all unconfirmed.

- some say Indian water infrastructure taken out. Unconfirmed. No footage so far.
 
My friend it's all about training and equipment

JF17 with a PL15 has a 200km BVR, in a net centric environment backed by AWACs and ground raders and other planes you have a superb chance with the right tactics to destroy any incoming enemy airforce


We have been trying to explain this to you guys for years, that JF17 is something you have immense control over and can even induct your own weapons and even if you don't use it as your main fighter you can back up the spear point of your airforce with BVR capable fighters



India didn't even win with Rapaels and meteors

And I don't even think you got given the meteors


Forget the western weapons, plan better
if you still didnt got it, PL15's range well beyond 200 km.
 
I may get flak for this but diplomtically, poltically and militarily it may be worth ending it now.

Pakistan will look magnanimous

India has been seen globally as an aggressor

Pakistan has shown a feat of arms unrivalled in modern warfare for the last 30-35 years
Exactly - at this point it may be good to show exactly what has been achieved in “defensive” operations through official channels. Heck invite western youtube former military or otherwise influencers to come and look at things - let that rub in for years.
 
I may get flak for this but diplomtically, poltically and militarily it may be worth ending it now.

Pakistan will look magnanimous

India has been seen globally as an aggressor

Pakistan has shown a feat of arms unrivalled in modern warfare for the last 30-35 years

Lol

Don't know what else to say

Unreal cuck post
 
The words coming out the mouth of the political leadership is not nearly as aggressive as it should be.

There’s no such thing as political leadership in Pakistan. We only have political puppetship. The leadership is with the military, which is run by Asim Munir. So, whatever decision is made it will be made by Asim Munir. The buck stops with him.

General Asim Munir has a choice between being known as Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah Pasha or as Whiskey, whichever he prefers.
 
I may get flak for this but diplomtically, poltically and militarily it may be worth ending it now.

Pakistan will look magnanimous

India has been seen globally as an aggressor

Pakistan has shown a feat of arms unrivalled in modern warfare for the last 30-35 years

Maybe a few deeper missile strikes plus solid proof of downed jets is .... emphatic
 
Exactly - at this point it may be good to show exactly what has been achieved in “defensive” operations through official channels. Heck invite western youtube former military or otherwise influencers to come and look at things - let that rub in for years.

And what should Pakistan do with the browny points that Pakistan would get for this

Where those points should be redeemed?
 
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Guys, go to twitter and check the official martin baker channel. Last crash was Pakistani Mirage on April 16th while they were training and last night Martin Baker skipped 3 numbers. 3 unaccounted seat launches. LOLOL. JF17 and J10 do not use Baker seats. Fck the Pakistanis are not lying. 3 Rafales, 1 Su30, 1 mig29. Mig and Su don't use baker seats too.
 

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