Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Oscar said:
Not exactly but it is a desperate situation which either is resolved through all out conflict to see if the world will react and potentially fix the water situation - or to call it a day with "face saved" and resign to the slow agonizing leper type death India has planned for Pakistan.
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the correct course of action is for Pakistan to use these upcoming years to

1) use the unprecedented chance to repair establishment-people relations. end the feudal exploitation of relevant feudal areas — how can you allow feudal lords and Sardars to threaten children to not go to school?

2) build up offensive military capability against India.

Only brute force will convince these delusional bhaktoras to come to the negotiating table for implementing UN resolution 80 on Kashmir.

I mean, logistics for war 90+km inside India. Up till the Sutlej at least. Threaten Delhi.
 

French official says Pakistan downed Rafale jet as officials examine possible further losses​

From CNN's Saskya Vandoorne in Paris
A high-ranking French intelligence official told CNN today that one Rafale fighter jet operated by the Indian Air Force was downed by Pakistan, in what would mark the first time that one of the sophisticated French-made warplanes has been lost in combat.
Pakistan claimed earlier today to have shot down five Indian Air Force jets in retaliation for Indian strikes, including three Rafales. Indian officials are yet to respond to the claim.
The French official told CNN that French authorities were looking into whether more than one Rafale jets were shot down by Pakistan overnight.
Pictures taken of parts of an aircraft that crashed in Indian-administered Kashmir show the label of a French manufacturer, but experts said it was not possible to say whether the part came from a Rafale aircraft.
Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the jet, has not responded to CNN's requests for comment.
Some background: The Rafale is a 10-ton, twin-engine multirole fighter, equipped with a 30mm cannon for air combat and ground support, along with air-to-air missiles, laser-guided bombs, and cruise missiles.
Before this latest escalation, India had 36 Rafale jets in its Air Force, purchased from French manufacturer Dassault Aviation.
The French military has not officially commented on the incident.
 
Bilal said:
That’s not how the world works. Either you can raise hell or you are amongst the shafted ones.

What happened was just a response for air violation.

It in no way balances the death of civilians and attack in the cities.

Don’t be salami tacticed…
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Ok so we hit targets in India RIGHT

Then what, do indians stop, or does being disgraced force them to hit Pakistan

Let's say they hit our airbases with missiles, hit jets and infrastructure

Then we are forced to respond again and hit their bases



In front of the world we are the same, their is death and destruction and we don't gain anything

At the moment Pakistan is well ahead, we humiliated India again, we have now shot down 6-7 Indian jets over the last 5 years with ZERO response from India

Yesterday we hit multiple Indian targets

TAKE THE WIN

Go on a diplomatic offensive, lose nothing more and let indians stew as more and more evidence of their utter humiliation emerges



I'm more convinced this is the best scenario for us at the moment
 
Sharma Ji said:
lol

im feeling a like a bihari too

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masood azhar k ghar walon ka murder kar dia, not cool..

... that's all we have to show ?

at least he should have been taken out directly

total disaster so far

or maybe I'm watching too much Pk propaganda ? ..

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I'm not commander, xutia Moddy is

warna I'd:

naval blockade Pk proper, matlab proper strangle.. ek bhi cargo/oil/whatever jahaz dock na kar sakta in Karachi .. sink a few PN boats while we at it

+

big hit on all CPEC road infra (spl bridges/tunnels etc)


impact stuff, xhit that set the enemy back a dozen years

.. but I'm just a humble keyboard warrior

agar asli warrior hota !
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Sharmaji, what brand today?. Kuty mar
 
I have a feeling the French may have sold "monkey model" Rafales to the indians, with downgraded Spectra EW capabilities, in order to avoid these becoming widely known by potential adversaries. If Spectra is all that it has claimed to be, it's unlikely the French would give equivalent versions for any of its export models.
 
hussain0216 said:
Ok so we hit targets in India RIGHT

Then what, do indians stop, or does being disgraced force them to hit Pakistan

Let's say they hit our airbases with missiles, hit jets and infrastructure

Then we are forced to respond again and hit their bases



In front of the world we are the same, their is death and destruction and we don't gain anything

At the moment Pakistan is well ahead, we humiliated India again, we have now shot down 6-7 Indian jets over the last 5 years with ZERO response from India

Yesterday we hit multiple Indian targets

TAKE THE WIN

Go on a diplomatic offensive, lose nothing more and let indians stew as more and more evidence of their utter humiliation emerges



I'm more convinced this is the best scenario for us at the moment
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You will get shafted again after 6 months, year or a bit more on a larger scale. Zoom out from micro view.

URI, no response = Balakot, limited response = our cities being hit.
 
hussain0216 said:
Ok so we hit targets in India RIGHT

Then what, do indians stop, or does being disgraced force them to hit Pakistan

Let's say they hit our airbases with missiles, hit jets and infrastructure

Then we are forced to respond again and hit their bases



In front of the world we are the same, their is death and destruction and we don't gain anything

At the moment Pakistan is well ahead, we humiliated India again, we have now shot down 6-7 Indian jets over the last 5 years with ZERO response from India

Yesterday we hit multiple Indian targets

TAKE THE WIN

Go on a diplomatic offensive, lose nothing more and let indians stew as more and more evidence of their utter humiliation emerges



I'm more convinced this is the best scenario for us at the moment
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Not good enough, they killed 28 civilians, PAF has to kill 288 of their soldiers, half a regiment at a minimum.
 
r3alist said:
Relax sir.....I understand but calmmm

Also Palki needs a hug

Be there for her

But also , you can play a tiny tiny role and caution a reduction in rhetoric or this escalates if not now then soon

And I believe your air force is not getting better soon, paf will

Reverse iwt
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Palki is happy marrize'd

more reajon to be gloomy :(
 
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