Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Kharral said:
They are reconnoitring or targeting Khraian cant by the looks of it.
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Kharian is a sensitivity area it contains both the Pabbi army firing ranges & Cantt with the 17th division firmly established there.

So recce in this area is expected, but don't let this shoot down be an easy sitting armed forces have to be on tight vigil.

The humiliation in the air & losing several jets will bound to make India settle scores to save face both domestically & internationally.
 
The echo chamber of propaganda India has created over the last few decades is extremely dangerous and suicidal.

The loss of five aircraft and global humiliation has not knocked an ounce of sense into Indians.
 
FuturePAF said:
The key with Himachal Pradesh is the China factor, and that Pakistan can only properly deal with it in a coordinated manner with China. It all has to do with Tibet. The Dalai Lama’s base is in Himachal Pradesh, because part of Himachal Pradesh was part of Tibet. With the succession of the Dalai Lama and the general Tibetan issue, if India threatens China hold on Tibet it would be the most opportune time for China to deal with them, and if China supported Pakistan’s capability to be able to do it, a one front reinforced war could liberate Kashmir and large parts of Himachal Pradesh.

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Is it time?
 
PakistanLVR said:
Most of these guys are circle-jerking each others over downed jets and that's the extent of what they want Pakistan to ie retaliate massively. We understand that Pakistan needs to retaliate massively and across the international borders. No one cares about downed aircraft as the narrative is India bombed Pakistan, which in this day and age means Pakistan is another Lebanon and India is the Israel. They will paint this narrative as incompetent, weak, cowardly Islamic nations
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I am still undecided about what Pakistan should do.
But if you think that downing several Indian jets AND killing dozens in India AND destroying an Indian Brigade HQ in Iok would equate Pakistan with another toothless Islamic country then I have to disagree with you. It is not going to take long before even the Indian media will start telling truth about the Indian losses during early morning hours of May 7, 2025. India is not North Korea: Things eventually do come out in India. And the world, including many Indians would know what happened in last 24-36 hours.

I think at this moment, there is some cost benefit analyses going on in Pakistan with international players also involved. And I trust the Pakistani state to make the right decision: It has made right decisions for decades as far as foreign policy is concerned, minus the involvement in the Jihad against the Soviets, and I am confident they will make right decisions again.
 
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Meengla said:
Here is a particularly serious problem Pakistan faces when confronting India in Kashmir: Pakistanis sees Kashmiris, especially the Muslim Kashmiris, as their own and so Pakistan has to be careful in targeting IoK; India has no such restrictions. India actually sees Kashmir as a real estate and as a tool to punish Pakistan using water as weapon.
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There’s been a lot of Kashmiri casualties and many civilian casualties in Poonch from heavy artillery shelling.
 
Pakistan has captured a few loitering munitions & one even UAV launched ground attack munition in perfect condition.

These should be ripe for picking apart & studying.
 
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MH.Yang said:
The fact is that the J10C is not suited to attacking ground targets, it is a pure air superiority fighter. And it is unlikely that the US will allow F16s to be used to attack India, the F16s will probably not be able to take off. Pakistan's air superiority actually makes it difficult to help ground forces.
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Pakistani JF-17s, Mirages, drones, and even F-7s can take care of the job.

Not to mention PA's own artillery
 
Mirzali Khan said:
There’s been a lot of Kashmiri casualties and many civilian casualties in Poonch from heavy artillery shelling.
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Ask those soldiers who are eye ball to eyeball on LOC. Plenty of accounts of how Pakistani soldiers have to be careful in attacking the Indian posts.

airhead said:
your kidding me right? this is the same army that killed its own right in the middle of islamabad...25 of them. I dont think kashmiri lives matter to PA,,,yes will be bad PR and that is what will prevent PA from attacking civilian areas but after the Nov 25 incident in Islamabad, i have lost faith in our army. PAF is of course a different story
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Okay, Imrandoo. Please take your gripe to some other thread.
 
Meengla said:
A Pakistani analyst has pointed out how vulnerable India's 'supply lines' into IoK is. He identified places which are close to the International Border, places which are not year around crossing into IoK... The Operation Gibraltar 1965 was premature and the Kargil War 1999 was ill conceived but things have changed in IoK since Modi alienated the Kashmiris starting August 2019 AND he also alienated the Chinese who are now sitting on top of Ladakh in a hostile posture.
And no one is going to come to help India--not even the Russians because they have seen India's true face, which is a Two Face. I will try to look up a recent video of Khurshid Kasuri, a brilliant Foreign Minister of Pakistan, where he mentions how India was 'too clever by half' in last few years and ended up alienating even the Russians.
Indians are stupid in foreign policy! Such a reversal from the pre Modi years.
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A lot of this is already known(and I hope war gamed)...
...the issue isn't making the concerted effort in making a military push...
...the issue is what comes next after you have done so.

Even if everything goes according to plan in those areas and gains are made on land while PAF is able to either keep IAF in check or establish air superiority...
...what happens when India opens additional fronts all across Pakistan's border with India? Would Pakistan be able to carry on a conventional war? With most countries that provide war materials sanctioning Pakistan...how long would spares last? How soon would Pakistan be able to replenish losses? How long would the oil supply last? How long would Pakistan be able to keep up this conventional war with its fragile economy? And even if in the face of all of this...Pakistan somehow is able to keep a numerically and economically superior foe at bay on IB and win in Kashmir...
...what happens when Indian nukes come into play?
 
arjunk said:
The echo chamber of propaganda India has created over the last few decades is extremely dangerous and suicidal.

The loss of five aircraft and global humiliation has not knocked an ounce of sense into Indians.
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It’s genuine schizophrenia and psychosis. Boosted by Bollywood and their belief in Hindu supremacy.

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pakistanitarzan said:
@RescueRanger Can you please start banning all political posts and members that are making political insults? Im getting tired of hearing patwari, imrando and these kinda of rants. Those Pakistanis need to be ashamed that aren't supporting Pak army right now and bringing out the recent past.
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I am waiting for lunch time - then we will do some cleaning up in the thread as I have to go through pages 150-381+.
 
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