Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

AND killing dozens in India AND destroying an Indian Brigade HQ in Iok would equate

Is there actual proof of all of this because I am reading is their disinformation campaign in full swing. Its "Pakistan claims xwy" and these assholes here spreading misinformation because they want to be the first with the"breaking news."

You don't understand how I am looking at things, and its through escalation. They bombed across the international border, just like LAST TIME. I want this Govt to be as ruthless as they were with IK and his followers, call the Indians bluff for a total war. What the Indians have done is hang a sword of democles over the necks of Pakistan.
 
Pakistan has captured a few loitering munitions & one even UAV launched ground attack munition in perfect condition.

These should be ripe for picking apart & studying.
I might sound like a broken tape recorder but hear me out, its time Pakistan also study what went wrong in both Muridke & Bahawalpur i.e having robust conventional missiles like Brahmos are a must.

Am not sure what the stockpile of Pakistan has in terms of the conventional analogues of Raad, Babur etc but there's also my opinion that we should be stockpiling missiles that can offer a robust strike i.e supersonic air launched missiles.

It's time we get proper air launched missiles with adequate range to ensure a safety parcel for both the delivery driver & its van.
 
Is there actual proof of all of this because I am reading is their disinformation campaign in full swing. Its "Pakistan claims xwy" and these assholes here spreading misinformation because they want to be the first with the"breaking news."

You don't understand how I am looking at things, and its through escalation. They bombed across the international border, just like LAST TIME. I want this Govt to be as ruthless as they were with IK and his followers, call the Indians bluff for a total war. What the Indians have done is hang a sword of democles over the necks of Pakistan.
You are right. We need to respond across the border openly at some big military target. There is no way around this. They killed Pakistanis, there can only be revenge.
 
The key with Himachal Pradesh is the China factor, and that Pakistan can only properly deal with it in a coordinated manner with China. It all has to do with Tibet. The Dalai Lama’s base is in Himachal Pradesh, because part of Himachal Pradesh was part of Tibet. With the succession of the Dalai Lama and the general Tibetan issue, if India threatens China hold on Tibet it would be the most opportune time for China to deal with them, and if China supported Pakistan’s capability to be able to do it, a one front reinforced war could liberate Kashmir and large parts of Himachal Pradesh.

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in order to do so, Army needs to seriously ponder and think upon it. The surprising factor is that the general population isn't too hostile to Pakistan. They speak a dialect of Pahari the language of AJK.
If they seriously analyse and study it im sure they will find a lot of things to play with. They just to send some deep agents there to collect some on round information and build networks at grass routs level. Capturing or destabilizing the area will make it hard for Indians to reinforce IOK and maintain constant supply chains.
Chinese option is sensible and good approach. They can penetrate from North and we from South and even divide the area in long run. As long as Indian mainland is cutoff its all good. And then launch offensive from South (Jammu into IOK) to finish the job.
 
You are right. We need to respond across the border openly at some big military target. There is no way around this. They killed Pakistanis, there can only be revenge.
Pakistan needs to level that fecal mountain called Gujurat and bring pain into their lives. Stone for a brick I say!

The Indians took an eye? You take two of their necks.

Pakistan needs to ruin Indian cities.

Anything short of that would be treachery!
 
Ask those soldiers who are eye ball to eyeball on LOC. Plenty of accounts of how Pakistani soldiers have to be careful in attacking the Indian posts.



Okay, Imrandoo. Please take your gripe to some other thread.
It is not the day I take you.. so be very careful. Pakistan in the middle of war
 
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This air battle should be a milestone in the history of modern air combat and recorded in the annals of air combat history. Verified that the advanced and inevitable mode of future air combat has become a reality. There are several determining factors that modern and future fighter jets must possess:
1. Super invisibility
2. Systematic combat system (early warning, radar, satellite, data link)
The maneuverability and flight control performance of a single aircraft are no longer important
3. Advanced beyond visual range weapons. The fighter jets never meet, let alone engage in close combat
 
Lets say Pakistan does retaliate, most likely GHQ will choose targets that don't incite a even larger response, and escalate this further. What is the future for this country? India is now targeting our cities like its nothing, their trying to gain control over OUR waters, they are a significantly larger economy than us, and tbf their future is much brighter. The Pakistani Establishment needs to take a good deep look at this countries future, and needs to start fixing its domestic problems starting TODAY. Or either India will win against us upfront, or they will give us a painful slow death.
 
in order to do so, Army needs to seriously ponder and think upon it. The surprising factor is that the general population isn't too hostile to Pakistan. They speak a dialect of Pahari the language of AJK.
If they seriously analyse and study it im sure they will find a lot of things to play with. They just to send some deep agents there to collect some on round information and build networks at grass routs level. Capturing or destabilizing the area will make it hard for Indians to reinforce IOK and maintain constant supply chains.
Chinese option is sensible and good approach. They can penetrate from North and we from South and even divide the area in long run. As long as Indian mainland is cutoff its all good. And then launch offensive from South (Jammu into IOK) to finish the job.
Himachal Pradesh has historically been anti Islam for centuries.

This isn't the thread or else i would list all the historical battles that have taken place for that land between indigenous Muslim conquerors & them.

But I would list one example the Khokhars.
 
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This air battle should be a milestone in the history of modern air combat and recorded in the annals of air combat history. Verified that the advanced and inevitable mode of future air combat has become a reality. There are several determining factors that modern and future fighter jets must possess:
1. Super invisibility
2. Systematic combat system (early warning, radar, satellite, data link)
The maneuverability and flight control performance of a single aircraft are no longer important
3. Advanced beyond visual range weapons. The fighter jets never meet, let alone engage in close combat
Great post, I wish more people from Pakistan posted like this instead of adding usual political 香料. Thank you for posting this :)
 
Himachal Pradesh has historically been anti Islam for centuries.

This isn't the thread or else i would list all the historical battles that have taken place for that land between indigenous Muslim conquerors & them.

But I would list one example the Khokhars.
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