Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hussain0216]

Considering what has happened up until now:

1. India has clearly not been deterred, the reason it is still using drones.
2. IAF is another story, they don't seem willing to bring out their big guns anymore having lost 2 of their most prized jewels i.e. SU-30MKI and Rafale in one night.
3. We're still at the stage where India has withdrawn from the IWT and the article 370 remains revoked.
4. PAF on a tactical level has completely owned the IAF.

Deterrence needs to be established, and it cannot be done so unless Pakistan doesn't do something big. Border skirmishes don't count, the fight needs to be taken to Indian cities across the international border since India via its aircrafts/UAV's has done the same.
Pakistanis have picked up bodies since 2010's, our forces have been in conflict and are battle hardened. The question remains, are the Indians/keyboard warriors that love war mongering in the comfort of their own home, are they as ready to pick up bodies? Are they ready to feel the fear of missiles landing left and right .. So far the Indian media has made every loss in to a victory using theatrics/bollywood, but the question remains, does India really have the appetite outside of computer/LED screens?

We cannot afford to loose the moral high ground, hence targeting any civilian infrastructure or places of worship should be out of the question.

What remains are military/strategic targets like dams, Enemy air defense sites, airports, military installations, all of those things while creating an environment which breeds fear in the Indian side, while trying to minimize collateral damage.

What is clear is that Pakistan MUST respond now. The earlier supposition that the situation will fizzle out as it were with the 5 aircrafts kill for the PAF, while IAF taking out "terror camps" being the off ramp for India, is out of the picture now.

Yep

A heavy handed response against multiple targets inside India is now a MUST

India doesn't want to wait for a week whilst Pakistan piles up more and more pressure

Hence the drones

 

[Pak Defender]

India has upped the ante to elicit a predictable response so that Pakistan is chasing instead of them.

 

[Bilal]

Bhattinda to Firzopur is only 100km as per google map and that is not even bird-eye view. Next is Kasur in Pakistan. Bhattinda is easily within the range of PL-15 without crossing the border.

they don’t care! As long as they win bullshit arguments or muddle it at least, their egos are satisfied.

The onus is being lost. That’s the real thing.

 

[onlinpunit]

Bhattinda to Firzopur is only 100km as per google map and that is not even bird-eye view. Next is Kasur in Pakistan. Bhattinda is easily within the range of PL-15 without crossing the border.

Are you sure about this. Some reports put the distance st 170 Km. Also all Indian Jets were at quite some distance from IB as per my understanding.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Kamikaze drone attacks at random civilian places in Lahore ?

This doesn't make a lot of sense, something is not quite adding up..

 

[Mr X]

I have a curiosity. In 2019 PAF spent no time in declaring who was the "sukhoi slayer " and put a roundel on the jet. Why no such this time. A J10 C with Rafale mark will be the biggest advertisement for china..Right ?
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in 2019, it was a one-off clash with limited objectives. But the nature of this clash is still to be determined. We are expecting further strikes from India and/or revenge from Pakistan.

 

[Han Patriot]

I have a curiosity. In 2019 PAF spent no time in declaring who was the "sukhoi slayer " and put a roundel on the jet. Why no such this time. A J10 C with Rafale mark will be the biggest advertisement for china..Right ?
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Maybe because they are still patrolling daily and in active war? I otoh is still very curious why GOI is quiet about the Bathinda crash.

 

[Protagoras]

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[hussain0216]

There were 9 strikes at different sites yesterday, attacked mosque, killed terrorists. And today there are several drone attacks in heart of your major cities, your AD systems didn't even flinch, but you want us to believe that you have chased and shot down a Rafale with Chinese Jets? lmfao

There are multiple picture, videos, and other evidence now

This was one of the biggest post WW2 BVR battles and India was HUMILIATED

 

[313Ghazi]

No how dare cunts like you even thought of attacking us .
That's the problem, the worm infesting your brain has made you delusional and rabid .
The doctor advises alive cremation of your whole nation.

Don't make it personal bro. He's trying to discuss in a civil manner.

He's Indian not Modi.

 

[Mr X]

Are you sure about this. Some reports put the distance st 170 Km. Also all Indian Jets were at quite some distance from IB as per my understanding.

check google maps. Bhattinda to Firozpur by road is 100km and maybe add another 20km to Kasur, Pakistan.

 

[Han Patriot]

Are you sure about this. Some reports put the distance st 170 Km. Also all Indian Jets were at quite some distance from IB as per my understanding.

Check google maps, 80km max from border

 

[Areesh]

two hrs ago...Indian TV airing the video of Karachi explosion .....kiya ho raha hey yeh bhai

I didn't hear the explosion

But I also live at a distance from Shah Faisal

Aur karo restraint. Yehi hoga

 

[I*R*A]

Exactly what I asked the other Indian poster, why these drone strikes at different locations.. If Pakistan army has not carried out any cross border action up till now.

Is it for local populace? Or something sinister at hand and their plan as something different at all. I

This shows that they wanted to kill innocent Pakistani civilians in their sleep from the start.

Just imagine what a dangerous society they have become, even their trained professional military has succumbed to this ideology has committed the heinous crime of killing innocents for no reason.

 

[Liquidator]

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