Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Aise baray intellectual chutiye hain pure mulk me. I have a well educated guy running his own textile business in my extended family. Goes to europe twice a year for clients and shit.

Baat karo ge to lge ga yar kamal composure hai aur logical sb kuch. Political? Pakka nooni tatta chaat.
I met many like that.
 
It implies that there was some major flaw on the execution of The plans or it was inevitable in that scenario. But the main objective was fulfilled so we are some what okay with the price.
We can always learn from our mistakes. Better luck next time.

It implies that you lot got dominated and knocked out within your own airspace.
 
No Hurry, 100% IAF has now become obsolete, they were already struggling to get the full numbers, now they will need to invest multi billion dollars over the next decade to be able to face PAF. Lets see how much they can dish out I still remember just a few years back they use to strut on defence.pk that we are rich, we have money, we can afford it, lets see what they can afford now?

We take out their LR air defense, Which I believe we can with the tech and specialized weapons we have for that purpose, they are done.
It funny that the book keeper grand strategists believed they will bankrupt Pakistan with perpetual bark no bite



Yet they essentially need a whole new airforce now, do they not?

How much that gonna cost
 
My guess is one option they may be looking at which would both be militarily good for us but not too much of a escalation would be to use TB2 and Akinci to take out some S-400 units and record the whole thing. Would be another blow to their military

Turks operate S-400 and I think our TB2/Akincis came with EW packages. They would be happy to help us out here.

We then let ISPR play the videos at a conference....
 
Honestly, its not all IAF pilots fault, in my opinion.

The PL15E outranged the Rafale Meteors. The Indian AF strategists missed or discounted that scenario and paid the price.

And there probably was Chinese factor in giving satellite intel to Pakistan on a real time basis, as PAF wouldn’t have been able to get that many Aircrafts in air at such short notice to meet the IAF.

Maybe not quick enough to deny IAF the opportunity to deploy their stand off weapons at civilian infrastructure inside Pakistan.
 
No Hurry, 100% IAF has now become obsolete, they were already struggling to get the full numbers, now they will need to invest multi billion dollars over the next decade to be able to face PAF. Lets see how much they can dish out I still remember just a few years back they use to strut on defence.pk that we are rich, we have money, we can afford it, lets see what they can afford now?

We take out their LR air defense, Which I believe we can with the tech and specialized weapons we have for that purpose, they are done.
But what about the on ground forces and defence systems of pakistan? Can they resist the missiles?
 
What could be implications of this

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Not much - the software and hardware will be encrypted. The cpus and I/c are custom and bespoke, so difficult to reverse engineer. All they can work out is number of aesa t/r, frequencies, and processing capacity(maybe) and motor design for range but most of that they would have already leaned by now with three shot down rafales!

These systems are designed with a view that some will fall into enemy hands and will be inspected so there are safeguards in the design itself that go beyond self destruction.
 
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