Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Definitely the Saudis if the supposed ally is looking to engage Nawaz Sharif directly.

Saudis lack the balls to even defend themselves and want us to follow their example too just cause these bedouins have massive economic interests with India.

Let Nawaja have his nalli nihari with Saudis, baad mei Saudis he haar pehnaen ge humein jb Indians ki durgat bane gi, no worries....👍👍
 
The missile was found in near intact condition. So it was fired towards an aerial body but could not complete it's objective. It ran out of fuel or malfunctioned and fell down on ground.

Or it was a two missile salvo against one target and the first missile shot the plane down and the second one had nothing to do???
 
This is a great thought but it wouldn't lead to an off ramp

Pakistan would have to fight off tremendous pressure to flaunt this, Indians would need psychological reconstruction after losing rafales


And sometimes it's good not to be tooo successful as I can see already what's happened will be studied a lot around the world....does paf need this scrutiny


But a great idea to have in the back pocket at some point

True, but anything less may not sate public opinion in Pak.

Tough dillemma
 
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It appears that the production date of the PL-15 was 2015. I pulled the image off another forum; there were several more component pictures of the missile.

The ten-year gap is significant, given the rapid evolution of technology advancements; I wonder what

It funny that the book keeper grand strategists believed they will bankrupt Pakistan with perpetual bark no bite



Yet they essentially need a whole new airforce now, do they not?

How much that gonna cost
They already struggle to get enough pilots, who would want to join them after this massacre of their silver bullets? It's the long-term cost that would hurt them real bad
 
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Or it was a two missile salvo against one target and the first missile shot the plane down and the second one had nothing to do???
Does not matter ! It was found intact and hence valuable for future.
 
We are waiting Munira. Do the right thing and give them a bloody nose and a broken jaw at a minimum.......

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All talk? When work?
 
Not much - the software will be encrypted. All they can work out is number of aesa t/r, frequencies, and processing capacity and motor design for range but most of that they would have already leaned by now with three shot down rafales!

These systems are designed with a view that some will fall into enemy hands and will be inspected so there are safeguards in the design itself that go beyond self destruction.
and to add more ...till the next engagement with IAF, all current PL-15 will be replaced with updated version ....compatible with JF17B3/J10C/J35.....
 
They already struggle to get enough pilots, who would want to join them after this massacre of their solver bullets? It's the long-term cost that would hurt them real bad
They have tonnes of money to throw at that problem. Raises the costs for them sure, but does not stop their belligerence in any way that impacts future events like these happening.
 

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