Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Be with truth. ALWAYS support national unity, always support the oppressed, always raise voice against the WRONG. and most importantly, Always support Will of the nation!

What kind of human would want to keep genuine leader imprisoned especially when ALL the cases against him are baseless. I am failing to understand the kind of mentality that accepts injustice and feels its okay the way it is just because it suits your political agenda. Its not hidden anymore, how blunderous approach is from your govt and your touts. All they are doing is making a case from first minute is to accept india's dominance and accept humiliation of our sovereignty.

You will change your mindset only if you think about all this in a neutral way. You got to rid yourself from the bias that you have somehow believed in.

It's the sort of weak mentality that has got Pakistan to where it is. Stand for nothing, for for anything.
 
Still response should be standoff weapons, India has a dense and well layered ADS. No need to unnecessarily risk PAF birds….

Firstly Pak should declare RSS a terrorist organisation and behind bombings and recent terrorist incidents, then hit their HQ..

Yes!! Exactly what I have been advocating, use the same tactics they use, i.e. use terrorist targets to legitimise attacking india.
 
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India is upset that Turkey sent drones. lol

"On the night of 7 and 8 May, the Pakistan Army used around 300 to 400 drones to target our military infrastructure. Indian armed forces shot down most of these drones. The wreckage of the drones is being examined. Initial reports indicate that these were Turkish ASISGUARD SONGAR drones."
 
Pakistan should invite China and Bangladesh to open up the North Eastern Indian Theater and offer half of Indian North Eastern States to China and half as well as Western Bengal to Bangladesh. China can take over the Chicken's Neck or the Siliguri Corridor.


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waisae..
aik baat hai..
I must commend the forum members who know what happened and have stayed tight liped.

what PAF did was nothing short of miracle.. Allah swt ka jitna shuker karaein kam hai..

I just wish some day... someone will come out... and I wish I see tht day with my fellow Indians.
Bharat is now in a a de facto mode of being like without an effective air force. Hence, they're sending loitering ammo in frustration. Even Husis have a better justification and goal. No further explanation is required.....
 
Good to know this forum is active. I was in other one since 2008. Used to read and talk with Mastang and others, dont know if they know me. they were really good and technical and wish they were present here.
 
these songar drones structurally looks as if, any one can make them. I mean to say, it does not very sopohsiticated.
Numbers of those matters, infantry troops front line life expectancy and conditions are much more improved if you have those in unlimited numbers per expirience of russian ukrainian war.
 
What you are suggesting, needs not to be repeated again specially in current circumstances.
One can make opposite case/claims as well. This is not the time or place for such remarks.
I urge you to delete the post.

Let's do the opposite

Let's highlight who our enemies are trying to attack Pakistan alongside the hindutva

So when we bomb and slaughter them afterwards, no one will be confused why we are targeting them
 
People do forget, China has become a very developed country and for two decades has devoted enormous resources to the development of its weapons and there is no doubt that its weapons have become at the highest level, only previously they had not been tested , so there was speculation, but now they have proven their superiority in the field against a very sophisticated aircraft. The French Rafale fighter was Considered the best 4.5 Gen in the current market. And the way JC10 jet easily shot it down and mauled it in the live field . It really displays the leaps in China Aviation industry has done.

The world is still being bounded by the superstition of the western supremacy.

This will force China to release its 5th gen soon by sale, also the 6th gen in the near future.

Since its birth, China always tended to share its invention with the world without reaping a huge profit.
 
بھارتی پائلٹس جدید جنگی جہازوں کی ٹریننگ لینے کےلئے روس گئے، روس کا انسٹرکٹر دوران ٹریننگ بتا رہا تھا کہ "اس بٹن کو دبانے سے طیارہ اوپر جائے گا اور اس بٹن کو دبانے سے طیارہ دائیں مڑے گا اور اس بٹن کو دبانے سے طیارہ بائیں مڑے گا"۔ٹریننگ کے اختتام پر بھارتی پائیلٹس نے سوال پوچھنے کےلئے ہاتھ کھڑ کئیے اور سب نے مشترکہ طور پر ایک ہی سوال پوچھا کہ "طیارہ نیچے کیسے لایا جائے گا۔؟"روسی انسٹرکٹر نے لمبا سانس لیا اور بھارتی پائلٹس کو مخاطب کرتے ہوئے کہا "اس بات کی تمہیں فکر کرنے کی چنداں ضرورت نہیں ہے، یہ پاکستانی پائلٹس پر چھوڑ دو وہ تمہیں جہاز سمیت نیچے لے آئیں گے۔"
 

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No no I am under no impression nor disregard the other factors that you mentioned, in fact we did discussed those aspect few pages ago.
Now, it doesn't matter what I want or what people want, what matter is what is the new normal ? What matter is 26 dead Pakistani's and their Qabar ki mitti is still wet, and Indians gloating, while we are on our way to surrender to what India said, when Pakistan categorically deny its hand in Phalgham attack and yet you lose 26 people, and your country got bomb, 2-4 masjids got blown to bits.
And here we are waiting, maybe the response will come so everyone is being patient but signs are not good, and with every hour/day chances are getting low.
Maybe you should've given the advice to ISPR or Establishment that we have to live in Global ecosystem than what was the point of big talk? basically if you can't walk the talk, than don't talk...
And trust me, not one international media, historian will take PDF ke Trust me bro sources that we shot down 5 fighters, 25 drones etc... India got video to show, international media cover our masjid blown up, and we have nothing but few pics which even International media is reluctantly accept, that tooo for only 2 fighters... official claim was 5.
Again - I always say to such bluster - if you are so convinced you can do a better job - please apply for it.

Let’s say only 2 jets were downed - then they were downed while outnumbered 3:1.
Not sure where else that has happened in modern air combat.

There were likely 40+ civilians killed - not 26 -
Mosques or not is irrelevant.

What’s been done in response is known to Indians on LoC - and elsewhere.

However, unlike the Indian economy Pakistan is on life support.
So when the entire world is saying hold off otherwise we’ll choke your citizens to death you have considerations to take which let’s be honest neither you nor I will be impacted by but those sitting in Pakistan looking at reduced electricity production, fuel prices unaffordable, no water for crops, no transport and infrastructure working will face. All the “I want blood” goes away when you cannot pay for food or fuel.

Even those living in Pakistan making boisterous statements haven’t seen the impact of complete strangulation because that is the message your brothers have landed with yesterday.
 

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