Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Again - I always say to such bluster - if you are so convinced you can do a better job - please apply for it.

Let’s say only 2 jets were downed - then they were downed while outnumbered 3:1.
Not sure where else that has happened in modern air combat.

There were likely 40+ civilians killed - not 26 -
Mosques or not is irrelevant.

What’s been done in response is known to Indians on LoC - and elsewhere.

However, unlike the Indian economy Pakistan is on life support.
So when the entire world is saying hold off otherwise we’ll choke your citizens to death you have considerations to take which let’s be honest neither you nor I will be impacted by but those sitting in Pakistan looking at reduced electricity production, fuel prices unaffordable, no water for crops, no transport and infrastructure working will face. All the “I want blood” goes away when you cannot pay for food or fuel.

Even those living in Pakistan making boisterous statements haven’t seen the impact of complete strangulation because that is the message your brothers have landed with yesterday.
Economy is the most important thing in any kind of warfare. I hope people in decision making seats take this into account. At this time they have more highs than enemy. There is no point in endangering your upper hand position.
Going forward trying to make yourself more relevant diplomatically and economically should be the goal.
I think saudi FM has landed in Pakistan this afternoon.
 
OMG. I don't like to watch people dying like that. These poor people died because of the warped Modi ideology!
I do think India has suffered significant casualties along the LoC in last 2-3 days. Someone posted a video here yesterday where an Indian soldier, apparently in a bunker, walking past at least three dead soldiers with fires around.
In a way, am glad my browser security is such that I cannot see these links.
 
In addition to Chicken's neck blockage and take over of N.E Indian states by China and Bangladesh, if the war in Indian Occupied Kashmir flares up as expected, Pakistan can also invite China to take over Ladakh while Pakistan takes over Indian Occupied Kashmir. With the Indian Air Force grounded, their army is a sitting duck for the Pakistan Air Force. In this way the river water dispute would also be won for ever.
 
@Meengla sb

Not totally out of question!!!

While the ragtag Arakan Army is occupying their border villages

Regards

Yeah, 'ragtag' is the operative word here when you factor in what kind of support Pakistan, Turkey, China and whatnot can provide to Bangladesh if it would come to that.
BTW, Pakistan has brilliantly and patiently secured its wester flank in Afghanistan. I know there are issues with the Afghan Taliban but nothing like they would be if NATO's tens of thousands of troops were still there and with the hostile Northern Alliance in Power. And yet some people here had the audacity to open a thread like 'Pakistan's Failed Afghan Policy'.
Bah!

Edit: Western flank.
 
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So far Pakistan clearly won the military battles and shocked hindus forces on various levels BUT three big problems for Pakistan to erase remains which are civilian deaths, water and retribution for air incursions out of the disputed territories.
Unless those three situations remain non answered before wrapping up this conflict Pakistan would suffer strategic defeat, so this should be also message to the all so called brothers and friends who are coming into "mediation" missions that this mentioned are your red lines before silencing guns.


this war isn't over... I dont think it will ever end unless RSS mentality among a large number of hindus disappear
 
Those who have invested billions of $s in Bharat have understood: a "Cheewala" can occupy the highest chair in the highest boardroom in Bharat by popular vote whose objective in life is to take revenge on a nuclear armed Pak! Long live the meritocracy based CCP.....

Folks will now lose both mangoes and the sacks carrying them.....
 
In addition to Chicken's neck blockage and take over of N.E Indian states by China and Bangladesh, if the war in Indian Occupied Kashmir flares up as expected, Pakistan can also invite China to take over Ladakh while Pakistan takes over Indian Occupied Kashmir. With the Indian Air Force grounded, their army is a sitting duck for the Pakistan Air Force. In this way the river water dispute would also be won for ever.
Are you really that naive?
 
Again - I always say to such bluster - if you are so convinced you can do a better job - please apply for it.

Let’s say only 2 jets were downed - then they were downed while outnumbered 3:1.
Not sure where else that has happened in modern air combat.

There were likely 40+ civilians killed - not 26 -
Mosques or not is irrelevant.

What’s been done in response is known to Indians on LoC - and elsewhere.

However, unlike the Indian economy Pakistan is on life support.
So when the entire world is saying hold off otherwise we’ll choke your citizens to death you have considerations to take which let’s be honest neither you nor I will be impacted by but those sitting in Pakistan looking at reduced electricity production, fuel prices unaffordable, no water for crops, no transport and infrastructure working will face. All the “I want blood” goes away when you cannot pay for food or fuel.

Even those living in Pakistan making boisterous statements haven’t seen the impact of complete strangulation because that is the message your brothers have landed with yesterday.
You see I never claim anything, I am only holding the Pakistani side to their words, like I said if you can't walk the talk than don't talk at all, No one talk like that anywhere in the world including African nations, even in india where if Govt didn't take action people say if you can do better than go fight.

You are missing the point, you shot 2 planes down... and lost 40 people, your respect in the process, India launch major air operations in mainland Pakistan, not over contested Kashmir, they launch drones over major Pakistan cities like Lahore/Karachi etc. While people can jump and gloat over 2-5 fighters shot down, you become a joke on international level where Indian breach almost every major city and its defense. It maybe a chaati chori moment for some, not for me.

The response we give on LOC, like I said not one International media, not one single Historian will acknowledge this " Indians know how hard our response was " or I have family in Army and he told me we did this/that, world work with FACTS/Figures/Pictures/Videos and results/Deterrence/Future implications and right now nothing is on our side, yes we cheer on that dog fight, we cheer when we shoot their fighters in pure defense of our territory but now its time to hit back to prevent future adventures from India.

Pakistan was/is/will remain on Life support, I am hearing about this nazuk mor se guzar raha hai since I was a kid, and most like my parents heard the same thing, electricity was/is/will remain short with high price, and every other utility you mentioned, Not a single Pakistan gareeb video I saw where he was worried about increase in petrol price or no bijli, heck my family is not some super duper rich or we live in 1000 acre farm or drive Prado, middle class area we live and I talk to my family and what people are talking is to not surrender to India and let India get away with this... All these chocking of Pakistan, economy , finances , yeah big words but doesn't work in a already messed up Pakistan.

I think Pakistan stopped relying on "Brotherly" KSa or UAE when it comes to its survival long time ago, yeah loans comes from them but that's about it, on a diplomatic level KSA/ME help for Kashmir or anything Pakistan stood for is lower than a Bharti's IQ.

Last, All I want to say is I don't want a extended war in the region, in fact I am up for a good relationship with India but not like this, nor with current Indian govt its impossible, on the other hand you can't let Indians set new normal every year, 2016 ground incursions, 2019 Air strikes with no causalities, 2025 Air strikes with 40 dead, you wanna bet 100$ that within few years same thing will happen? and next time maybe there are 20 targets instead of 9, 150-200 deaths instead of 40... but we are suppose to be happy that we shot down 2 fighter jets which drop their payload and were returning, bhai no one devalue the lives of Pakistani's better than us Pakistani's, and that include Pakistani terrorists, politicians, Army, and our so called pardhi likhi ashrafia.
 
Again - I always say to such bluster - if you are so convinced you can do a better job - please apply for it.

Let’s say only 2 jets were downed - then they were downed while outnumbered 3:1.
Not sure where else that has happened in modern air combat.

There were likely 40+ civilians killed - not 26 -
Mosques or not is irrelevant.

What’s been done in response is known to Indians on LoC - and elsewhere.

However, unlike the Indian economy Pakistan is on life support.
So when the entire world is saying hold off otherwise we’ll choke your citizens to death you have considerations to take which let’s be honest neither you nor I will be impacted by but those sitting in Pakistan looking at reduced electricity production, fuel prices unaffordable, no water for crops, no transport and infrastructure working will face. All the “I want blood” goes away when you cannot pay for food or fuel.

Even those living in Pakistan making boisterous statements haven’t seen the impact of complete strangulation because that is the message your brothers have landed with yesterday.

I cannot understand what is the 'thesis' here. We are not hitting home runs on economic fronts ever since we came into being (over all!). But, this time, our resources are at stake. Dont think, it is just IWT, it is every thing that we will need for our daily consumption. My thesis here is simple, we need water to build damns, to build damns we need one big joint 'surprisingly missing' consensus. We solve this war, we will 'get the desired consensus', just my opinion. Asking python to relieve pressure on your jugular, is of no use.
 
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Main reason why me as outsider is pissed on gulf states, they could have solved these basic issues for Pakistan long time ago and in process made money if it is life or death situation for them but they choose bigger but more bitter byte to chew and spit on you while doing so.

The biggest crime of the rich GCC is to let massive numbers of Indian workers into their countries where Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Eastern Europeans, East Asians could have done the job just as well. The NY Times ran a major story years ago, something like 'The Indianization of the Middle East'
Oh you Arabs! At least you can kick out the Indians in your midst?? Can't you see they are Zionist supporters cheering for the death of your own kins in Gaza?!
 

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