Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

1 makes sense but 2 is not easy, or even possible.

The Zionist entity is a country the size of your wiener with arguably the best air defence in the world, and protected by US/UK at the same time and still dozens of Iranian missiles slipped through - thats the real world of AD.
in that case, have a solid attach weapons that outrange every body else except China in the region and improve EW capabilities from bottom up and make availability sparse becuase we lack strategic depth.
 
This war has told us 2 lessons 1. increase stock pile of attack weapons 2. have a solid (state of the art) air defence network and update 1 and 2 whilst any radical is in power in india or near by

There will be a POST CONFLICT THREAD in that thread we need to discuss, what Pakistan needs going forward

Whether it's more J10s whilst J35 gets ready

More home grown loitering drones and munitions

Kit our ships out

Get the subs indicted and kitted out

Longer range anti ship weapons beyond 700km
 
Indians must be wondering why they don't see the same fanatical devotion towards them with posts like "all Israel is with you!" and "Mr.Modi sir,we are wit you all the way. Israelis are always by your side and you have the full support of our people!"

You know,like they did back in 2023 when they spammed Bibi's account with messages of love and allegiance.

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Yes, maybe luck, but from what i have seen so far in this conflict we have been very good on the EW side of things so maybe that played a role here? I am unsure
EW that far inside India while staying within Pak's airspace?...launching CM400AKG(which as far as I'm aware is not anti radiation type)...that doesn't track.

EW would make sense for a proper SEAD/DEAD type of mission...and that would require multiple jets and a coordinated mission...this is the whole reason I'm doubting that lone wolf type of story.
 
Congratulations Pakistan.

We have visuals of hypersonic air launched missiles and rocket systems firing. Due to the nature of targets, plus media blackout / deception in india, we are unlikely to see the impacts.

Moral high ground. No civilians targeted AND only military installations hit.

It is possible that:

- the nuisance we were seeing last night over our cities, including projectiles at air bases was after our operation had already started.

- the drones could be coming from anywhere, including TTP, BLA etc. They may have smuggled through our porous borders and awaited Indian instruction.
I was thinking that because they can be bring in boxes and assembled man’s fire from in side and or from Gulf of Oman
 
Dude , they couldn't even penetrate defence around a second tier base like Nur Khan, do you think they can strike such high value targets
Not a game bro, You cant leave these systems on 24x7 as INDIA doesn't have dedicated SEAD aircraft they are using these cheapo stuff one to create panic, and showing we are able to hit Pakistan, 2nd trying to force military to activate these systems so they can target these, when these are down, IAF can take the lead, for the time being its mainly military and missile force who are probing, Pakistan has done similar as well but I think as of now Pakistan has not gone all the way like India has done. from all the clutter spread, the Military is only bringing these systems online when you have no alternative and trying to hold and safe high-end stuff for end game, even if IAF is able to hit some with little damage, the Military can sustain that
At this stage it's not worth risking,
Hence, Pakistan is using mostly EW, Manpads, which I have not seen for the time being, and Anti-Aircraft guns to take out these targets instead.
For India, even if they hit a road in Pakistan, they will claim victory.
For Pakistan can sustain and keep doing this asymmetrical warfare and hold its own for quite some time against India, also, compared to India, China can supply quickly and without much fuss. At the same time, for India that is not the case, they have Israel,France,US, Russia and than own industries as suppliers so its bit complicated for them, this way they are Spending more, and focused on optics as well. if this goes in for 1 week. Pakistan doesn't lose any major system which itself will be a victory. It shows the indians that even though the MEDIA has been making the indian military some next-level monster, even after a week, it has not been able to do much.

Also you gotta look at the history, lost time India shot its helio but that news came later, Rafael and other jets, that news will come out as well.
 
Ain't no tom cruise in real life. No hot shot fighter pilots venture out like mercenaries.
Exactly...that only happens in movies...in real life...any enemy worth their salt would blow u out of the sky like it happened to Abhinandan.
 
what do you expect, in terms of Indian audience, he is 'nearly' their national hero, among the likes of sports personalities. Ofcourse, had that been any EU state, his rhetoric would have beem comletely different
The bigger issue being that where is Iran's self respect ? If anything they should have taken some diplomatic action or protested to India.

India are not that high and mighty as they claim, far from it, but It is this behavior of the world due to which they are behaving this way to everyone in their neighborhood.
 

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