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10 bucks say its being flown back n forth empty just to mess with Indian heads.
 
Off topic but kind of related. Establishment now needs to purge the political elements who they have placed in positions of power. This sensitive time showed us who is with Pakistan and who is not. Maryam and nawaz need to be put in the trash bin of history. Permanently.
 
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This doesn't just seem right

Congratulations to PAF though

If you minus the PAF - this doesn't look good on Pakistan


So much for maturity/restraint/time place of choosing

The land army of Pakistan was taken for a ride by India in this whole episode.

Might write a write up soon on this...
 
Outcome and Conclusion

i saw it sustained losses on Pakistan side, overwhelmed defence system because of drones, and brahamos, Scalp cruise missiles throughout the war, day and night. 5 days of targeting major bases and cities by IAF… Pakistan only used weapons Fateh long range MLRS and CM400 AKg cruise missile onetime
Airforce encounter was one or two times out of 5-6 times possible. why ? because Brahamos on Su30MKi and Scalp cruise missile on rafael were used everyday by India from deep within their territory behind the cover of S400, they were not deterred and kept firing under S400 umbrella . this skimish belngs to india unfortunately

what should have been done:

should’ve used CM400AKg early on to destroy s400 batteries and should have then gone into deeply flying su30mki and rafael to shoot them before they could fire brahamos and scalp, terrible strategic planning

Next steps:

High command should be court martialed and fired for late response. invest in hypersonic, drones and take action early on
 
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Descalation was always inevitable, both countries understood the consequences of further escalation

Let's not anyone be STUPID

Both countries have the means to target each other, fire missiles, hit targets a d the A.D is the sub continent is LIMITED

So to avoided further escalation, descalation was the only choice


India moronically without evidence targeted civilians.

Indian airforce was UTTERLY HUMILIATED and subsequently WENT MISSING, a great victory for the PAF

Both countries targeted each other, targeted bases, targeted sites
Pakistan stuck to military targets

The Indians were haramis and went the Jew route, this is something we need to look at, at whether we need to hit the Hindus or just military targets



Considering everything, it is what it is PAF and Army did their job


Let's be clear DETERRENCE is established, the IAF was disgraced and that in of itself will keep the indians quite

In the end the Indians as well as Pakistan wanted descalation and you have to question was any of it worth it,

India lost a billion on lost planes and soldiers will have died on the front


The indians are stupid and hindutva is poisonous and we need to prepare for them


The PTI fanboys will need to be kicked in the face
The indians will go into delusional fantasy about how they never lost a Rafael a d the PTI fanboys will go into Randi Rona mode

We can't allow that to happen and we must gradually get all the information out there to humiliate India in the aftermath
 
There is nothing 100% fool proof. Case in point Israel's multi-layered defense in an area smaller than Karachi. If they cannot protect it, nobody can over a much larger area.
I have said this in the past, both Pakistan and India can press home attacks given the size of the countries. It is next to impossible to have a missile defense that can provide even two nines or higher probability of interception against all incoming projectiles.

Nothing is 100% fool proof, but can reduce the potential damages drastically.

I’m not military expert so my opinion should be taken as chai wala opinion.
 
Afaik, PM spoke to all the parties leadership including PTI to brief them. I couldn't care less about what happens to the political circus though.
Ignorant statement , as the political circus is important and needs to end.. political leadership weak and non-existent and sorely felt.. army basically running the whole show… whenever political leadership spoke result was foot in mouth disease…. Non- coherent statements due to lack of education and acumen… he’ll none of them could articulate themselves in front of press.. sad to say only billu or overseas NRP could articulate to any degree…
 
Israel does sonic booms over Beirut whenever they feel like it.

Why don't Indians bring their Rafaels and try the same? :ROFLMAO:

Without any assurances for de escalation on their end then that agreement is useless

Because if anything happens in India then they’ll blame us and will start bombing Pakistani cities

They were able to exploit weaknesses in the AD system and Pakistan failed to do tit for tat attacks in India’s tier 1 cities.
 
That is part of what happens after a cease-fire. First people put the guns down, then people who to the table to talk.
The problem I see with this is that India went for ceasefire to resupply and take a breather. Nothing has changed for us. :(
 
I think it underscores how vital Afghan relations are for Pakistan. The days ahead we will see more movement on this.

Yes, something to ponder for those fixed on Afghan bashing. Issues with the Afghans need patience.

Pakistan can't afford any more fronts while dealing with an enemy 8 times its size intent on our destruction.
 

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