Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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SAAR NO DAMAGE, SAAR WE WON. SAAR S400

Pathetic display from the forces.

but hey- one rafale killed right!
Whoever said Pakistan was not going to, did not take damage? Don' get carried away with this. After all this is a war. Wait for the damage assessment from our side. They were lobbing stand-off munitions against our bases. Both sides know where the static deployments are and neither side has 100% defense against such strikes.

Simplistic comments like above are devoid of the reality of war. We don't have a shield against incoming air launched munitions. Nobody does. Not Israel, not the United States.

The issue is how much damage has been delivered on the other side.
 
Congratulations to Pakistan on achieving victory in the war. The brotherhood must unite; peace is fought for, not tolerated. At the same time, I express my condolences to the sacrificed Pakistani brothers! Pakistan, keep fighting, you will surely win!
Now we will need China’s help on the economy; convincing the Afghans to build that railway between Pakistan and Central Asia, as well as build Chinese commercial factories (for at least part of the Chinese supply chain) in Pakistan, so we can use the excess electricity and have the funds to buy more Chinese weapons. If Vietnam can be part of china’s supply chain, I think it is time we refocus on building up Pakistan’s economy to leave no vulnerabilities to foreign pressure upon Pakistan anymore.
 
It’s up to America if they want to regain the status of the F-16 in the PAF. If they offer the upgrade they get a chance back in.
Is it possible sir we can get Turkish upgrades to our F-16 without US permission?
 
If Pakistan had money, it could upgrade its air defence systems and fighter jets; currently, the number of air defence systems may be a bit limited. I think you lack shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles to deal with drones, as these larger missiles are very expensive.
 
If Pakistan had money, it could upgrade its air defence systems and fighter jets; currently, the number of air defence systems may be a bit limited. I think you lack shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles to deal with drones, as these larger missiles are very expensive.
Upgrade its AD?

HQ-16FE
HQ-BE
HQ-16A
LY-80EV
HQ-9P
FD-2000

plus dozens of lower tier systems. what upgrades...
 
what victory?

lost radars, lost ad, indians learnt they can do whatever tf they want in our airspace, and we're here celebrating made up wins.
Clearly people ^ have learnt nothing from the 3 year old Russian-Ukraine war. ANY war in the sub-continent will be high intensity and highly damaging for both sides. In this exchange, PAF hit them harder and they know it.

What is the lesson to be taken by them? That starting a conventional conflict with Pakistan has MAJOR costs for them. We were on the defensive and Pakistan has never claimed that we have an ABM shield or otherwise covering the length and breadth of the country. Obviously more work has to be done by us but if anyone here thinks that Pakistan was going to end this without a scratch is probably too detached from reality.
 
Is it possible sir we can get Turkish upgrades to our F-16 without US permission?
No.

But, We have to leverage this moment appropriately. The PAF has experience the USAF will want to hear about and learn from. Without giving away any trade secrets about our Chinese systems, learning tactics might be something of real value the US will want to know.
 
Indian BDA.

The Cope here claiming victory is unreal, we did FA in terms of damage...

Too early to say that off the back of a couple of pics, way way too early.

Just the video if Udampur alone showed major fires, so lets wait. One thing people love to do around here is jump to conclusions.

ISPR will tell us, if they want to show the proof they will. Right now Pak side has much more credibility then Indian side
 
"this is an absurd response.

So you admit, we dont have the ability to defend the whole spectrum...so your answer is to claim victory and accept "it is what it is". These are not easily replaceable, these are EXPENSIVE systems, we've got holes in our network punched, but hey, rafale right! One rafale kill cost us 4/5 radars, a S200, a and holes in runways and hangars- not to mention 40+ death."


What a moron you are....3-4 radars cost of 1 Rafale....

Look at the pics there is no fire/ demage or wreckage pieces.....Its worse than what Israel claimed as a proof against Iran.
 

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