Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Jango007 said:
Watching this presentation made me realize how desperate Indians have become to convince their hordes that they have achievend something ......some are comedy level stupidity.


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Pasrur radar....... hit seems to indicate little or no demage....Most likely a drone hit with very limited payload.

Chunian radar...... Extremely low quality pic...impossible to tell what we are looking at .

Arifwala radar...... Again some low intensity demage possible but too low quality to tell.

Sargodha base : Almost comical ...Two holes on the runway ...which before they had. a chance to take pics Pakistan had already filled!!!!

Rahim Yar Khan airport: Civilian target. Emergency landing strip and airport used mostly by Arab Royal families. No military infrastructure.

Nur Khan: One Structure destroyed....No loss of life or equipment visible.

Sukkar: Only clear radar damage/ destrotyed. Temporary aircraft parking shed seems to have collapsed and clearly no fire or anything parked undeneath it.

Bholari airfield: Only location where PAF suffered loss of life. 5 Shaheeds who were taking shelter in the building.

Jakobabad....Again a building structure that is demaged.


Things to notice:

Radars were hit by very small explosive projectiles which are most likely drones.

No damage worth mentioning at Noor Khan/ Sargodha/ Rahim Yar Khan.

No aircrafts loss any where but we lost five brave soilders at Bholari.

This is really all I could get from Indian sources.
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And this is what India achieved by using its top of the line weapons while Pakistan is yet to use it's many top of the line weapons ( I am obviously angry about it)
 
This whole time they are trying to get their act together maybe the war will start again because the wound they got is unprecedented
 
ARMalik said:
... Asim Munir ... negative propoganda was sponsored by India. The reason was that They were scared of him.
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Ah yes.... India was terrified of Munir. So much so that they began blocking our waters openly—something they had never dared to do before. Then came the suicide drones, the BrahMos salvos, the strikes on our airbases, even attacks on mosques and madrassas that killed 40. .. Sure, sounds like fear ..

Everyone knows why Gen. Munir lost public support, too much political meddling and a blatant disregard for the basic rights of anyone who didn’t toe the line...But that’s not what this thread is about... So instead of throwing around “Indian sponsored agent” labels and scoring cheap political points, how about we focus on the real threat we’re facing right now?

And just for the record—those you’re busy accusing of doing India’s bidding are the very ones who’ve been actively countering Indian propaganda for the past four days. It’s the same PTI that organized over a hundred rallies across the country today, in support of Pakistan and the armed forces, at a time when the boot polishers and Noon League brigade were nowhere to be seen. Can we, for once, set petty politics aside and focus on the very real threats we’re facing as a nation?
 
Cookie Monster said:
TBH...air defense has remained a RELATIVE(key word) weak point for Pakistan in general...
...just going back the last two decades ...India did put far heavier emphasis on developing/acquiring air defense systems...
...it's not that Pakistan didn't want to acquire them...but Pakistan had to carefully consider it's budgetary limitations. It did the best with what it had.

Pakistan did acquire various air defense systems and even upgraded some it already had(IIRC). Great efforts were made to have it all seamlessly work together(various systems, radars, and even different commands, some under PA and under PAF). It's just that with cheap drone swarms, hypersonic weapons, and other such techs...that have certain advantages against air defenses...
...Pakistan would need more time(and purchases) to cover more areas...build more layers(of air defense)...and if possible have an even faster detection(ideally launch detection), discrimination, tracking, determining proper counter measures.

No air defense system can claim to be 100% effective...and here we have new tech(that was almost sci Fi 20 years ago) like drone swarms already diminishing the not so 100% effectiveness of air defense systems...
...so somethings are bound to eventually get through.

It's not a justification...it's just stating reality...and more work would be required to reduce such events from occuring.
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get drones (effective ones) to down enemy radar quickly... and then buy radars and related ani radar weaponary IMO
 
Panzerkiel said:
The screens at the back are pretty educative.
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I thought it was good OPSEC to have the most non important screens in the picture.

ARY, there's a couple of seemingly static graphics, a weather map, and some others.

Interesting to see though, the CCTV screen with vehicles has SATCOM JAMMER on it, probably just changed the channel for the picture to CCTV? And on the left wall, is that a real time image? All part of space force?
 
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Indian Media : No projectile form Pakistan landed in India, no airfield Damaged, etc, etc etc, (as if Indian Media had any credibility left)

Here we go, right in the center of the runway at Udhampur. Seems precisely accurate too.
 
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