Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Nonsense. Now they are trying to pin being outclassed to some "sinister" internal undermining.

This past encounter is done. No need to linger on it. Pakistan needs to focus on deterring India from any future misadventure.

Expect a pretty significant change in the Pakistani doctrine in the near future.
 
What do you reckon is going on? The optics don't look good on fuelling the Modi regime with more weapons right now..
Pakistan awam and its armed forces is ready if they want more. InshaAllah all will be better. Im also paranoid lil bit but then I have relaxed my mind. Allah is with us.
 
What do you reckon is going on? The optics don't look good on fuelling the Modi regime with more weapons right now..
That's my point. India didn't fare well with the Top Tier toys they have. They initiated an attack on Pakistan via false flag and refused to participate in an independent investigation of said event. We clearly didn't believe them either when Vance was there.

Then, after getting bitched slapped and running to us for assistance, why would we consider giving them top tier missiles? I just don't see it happening.

You notice the Russians haven't stepped up to provide assistance, have you?
 
strong chatter in Indian community in the USA and the uk, USA is sending military report and there is nukes leak and USA is going to fix pakistan
This merely proves you can take the Indian out of the godi bakwas echo chamber, but you can never take the godi bakwas echo chamber out of the Indian.
 
Don't we use Noor Khan airbase to receive foreign dignitaries? Is SA's minister Adel Al-Jubier still in Pak? If so, how can India dare to attack Islo or Pindi? as the minister can be travelling between them.

SA minister left earlier today
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He says the minister plane was there when India attacked Nur Khan.
However, the natrix post suggests it went back, at least. @RescueRanger
 
Modi speach showed he has no comprehension of what the ground situation is. Still war mongering and calling nuclear threats "Blackmail".
He is thinking this is some kind of street beef where everyone is bluffing acting tough.
This guy is dangerous because of his stupidity and lack of intelligence and needs to be taken care of Asap.
 
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Its a hilly area, in my view the soldier is standing at a height above the engine. If you don't agree, then that's fine. nothing to argue about.
 
I recall from earlier interactions with you in the old PDF, you are a sensible PDF member from India.
Your post is overall decent, albeit with Indian POVs. That's of course fine. Except in this quoted part, India would be wrong to equate every firecracker in Indian Occupied Kashmir with a direct attack from Pakistan. There is absolutely no way Pakistan to stop sending fighters into IoK, IF it sends fighters into Kashmir, would be deterred by the Indian conventional strike in case something happens in IoK. But we know another 'incident' in IoK is guaranteed any minute because there are significant number of Kashmiris who want to target the Indian forces there. But IF this is the official Indian policy to strike Pakistan whenever something happens in IoK then I am afraid you are just setting up to strike Pakistan quickly and with overwhelming force whenever some attack in IoK happens. It is a dangerous policy and Pakistan should really focus on that.
I believe India will reserve this kind of response for only the most serious provocations. It’s not a policy shift that will be applied casually. Still, the region remains a powder keg—largely because I’m convinced there are influential elements within the Pakistani establishment that continue to favor asymmetric warfare as a strategic tool. Which is why, realistically, the next confrontation feels like a matter of when, not if.


Ideally, both nations would settle for a de facto stalemate—without requiring either side to formally compromise or lose face. From there, the smarter path would be to pursue EU-style regional economic integration across the subcontinent. It wouldn’t solve the core issues, but it could defer them indefinitely by making peace more profitable than conflict. Without such a framework, the risk of a nuclear escalation remains disturbingly real. And if that ever happens, South Asia may earn the tragic title of being the most self-destructive region on earth.


Perhaps one day, the subcontinent’s populations will evolve politically to the point where they can cooperate—not necessarily as one nation, but as a group of economically aligned partners, like the EU. A future where shared prosperity outweighs old divisions. But looking at where we are now, that vision feels more like a distant fantasy than a realistic goal.
 

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