Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[PakShaheen_79]

Salman Butt has an advice for Indians ....

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[maverick]

In today's CCTV7 military program, major general Zhang Shunde from PLAAF said that the pilots of the five Indian fighters shot down on the first night were unlikely to parachute successfully.

He said the J10C's fighting style should be like this: Pakistan's early warning system detects the enemy aircraft and informs the J10C to meet them. When the Indian fighters came within range of the PL-15E, the J10C was instructed to fire the PL-15E in the direction of the enemy aircraft, and after the J10C fired the PL-15E, it immediately detached itself from the combat zone, and the AWACS aircraft was responsible for guiding the PL-15E towards the enemy aircraft. During this process, the radar of the J10C should be off the whole time. The Indian pilots should not find themselves in range of the J10C.

After the AWACS guides the PL-15E into the non-escape zone, the active radar of the PL-15E will be turned on, locking on to the enemy aircraft until it is destroyed. This process is very short, PL-15E terminal speed is five times the speed of sound, when the Indian pilots find themselves locked, should be only twenty seconds time PL-15E arrived. So when the Indian pilots were first exposed to the J10C's air combat mode, they would have assumed, based on past experience, that they had at least two minutes to get out of the lockdown, and they would have tried to turn on the boost to escape, rather than immediately jumping out of the plane. So it should be unlikely that the Indian pilots who were shot down on the first night would have succeeded in parachuting.

All indian aircrafts were flying at 30,000 feet during that engagement, any ejection that altitude is not possible to survive, most likely when their jet tore up, they must have gone unconscious if not killed by initial blast

 

[maverick]

Pakistan is the ONLY country on earth who can bit*h-slap, humiliate and castrate an enemy that IS MORE THAN 7× bigger than it and has the FULL BACKING of america, the west, russia and israel. NO OTHER nation on earth can achieve that feat. Let that FACT sink in.

All victory belongs to Allah. It was HIS victory, and used Pakistanis to teach an arrogant, soulless people a lesson

 

[v9s]

The PAF mentioned jamming Indians SATCOM, so there is something to this. PAF may have revealed too much capability this time around. I'm sure the Indians will be rectifying their mistakes, Pakistan will need to maintain it's edge.

I thought so too, however i'm giving the benefit of doubt to PAF that they ran everything by the Chinese 1st on what capabilities to unveil (if you recall there was a Chinese military officer of some sort in the picture released of the 'dream team').

It was basically the Chinese sending a message to the west on their capabilities.

 

[Corax]

I thought so too, however i'm giving the benefit of doubt to PAF that they ran everything by the Chinese 1st on what capabilities to unveil (if you recall there was a Chinese military officer of some sort in the picture released of the 'dream team').

It was basically the Chinese sending a message to the west on their capabilities.

There was no Chinese officer in that photo, look again. Pakistan doesn't need to "run things past the Chinese first", stop making crap up.

 

[Meengla]

These youtuber journalists roll with the popular public opinion just for the sake of $, first they tried to incite hate against Pak army, and when they saw our people were praising army, they started praising army to, just untill last week these journalist were saying army and Modi planned this all. Imran riaz, Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja, Wajahat S. Khan, and much similar journalists should be banned.

Thank you! That's exactly what happened, and those posts/videos are all there for the world to see, and I have been warning about such fifth columnist 'journalists' along with a certain section of the Pakistani body politic which is actively supported by the Indians. As I said several times: That section of the Pakistani society and the Indians have the Pakistani military as the target and 'The target is the same, but goals are different'. But I hope there is more awareness in Pakistan about what's going on.
We don't want to steer this thread toward Pakistan's politics but is must be understood how many ways the Indians are undermining the Pakistani state.

 

[hasn2009]

Poor Modi g

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[52051]

This is Highly Unlikely,

1) Planes Crashing with Armaments would have caused such loud Bangs and given they way Photos and videos are available in India - it be would be in public domain with local claiming helping Pilots, IAF also stated the Pilots are home- MKI all are 2 seaters so 5 fighters would mean 5-8 ejections, some would definitely be in Hospital.

2) If Aircraft fell when they were coming in with Armaments there would have been misses on Targets on 7 May 25, and Pakis would have gone to Town with it our misses.

3) Both Air forces state they within their Borders, then distance between fighters should have been 40-50 Km, PAF claims it fired at retreating IAF aircraft, in a Tail Chase engagement Launching Aircraft to Target Aircraft comes down 4-5 times of a Head on engagement distance , So PL15E Launching aircraft should have been something like 25 KM from Fast twin engine jets like SU30MKI and Rafale, I don't these fighters were closer than that to the Border, explains why we have soo many PL 15 E debris with the missiles intact in the Rajastan sector.

This could also mean the PL15E launching aircraft would have to come in fast towards the Border making it vulnerable to IAF Aircraft who have been cover to the strike aircraft, so if any aircraft went down tat day in Rajastan sector across the it was possibly 1 or 2 J-10CE, could explain panic propaganda from the Chinese

4) Only exception could be Jaguar aircraft which are slower and so launching aircraft could have succumbed.

5) From 27 Feb 19- we know PAF states IAF losses as IAF+PAF losses - DSIPR that day also claim 2 Aircraft. So probably 5 PAF +IAF losses went down on 7 May 25,

6) Video evidence,

1- There is a video from Sialkot sector near Aknoor of an aircraft going down - some online videos from Jammu showing an aircraft going and wreak age from PAF side looking JF-17 Intake .
2- Video evidence in Pakistan Azaad Kashmir with wreak age of a Mirage 3/5 aircraft plus just across the LOC a single drop Tank with French Markings recovered by us and put in a Box Marked PAF material
3- Some grainy videos plus Media reports of an unidentified aircraft near Bathinda.



From public ally available information the For 7 Feb 25 , 1 Mirage 3 , 1 JF-17 , 2 J10CE and 1 Jaguar. Post that losses on PAF side probably night of 8-9 Feb 25 , 1 F16, 2 JF 17, Night of 9 Feb 25-10 Feb 25 morning 2 unidentified PAF aircraft.

I think totally PAF lost 9 Fighters to IAF 1 in all engagements in the Air , plus critical LY80 radars TPY-77, H-9, H-16 and numerous aircrafts on IAF hits on 11 airbases. No wonder there is no before after satellite images from them. Not to forget the huge number of Turkish drone losses. FPV can cover only a few KM from the Border- Songer, Byrakter etc are from 15K to 2-3 Millon USD, so losing about 800-900 of these is huge.

Also I don't think Pakis have access to real time satellite intelligence unlike us, so they are relying on Songar drones with cameras for targets on our side.

They may try something due to loss of H and D but it has been a massive face loss for them and many Europeans Chinese are clearly seeing our capability and putting crap propaganda videos.

Operation Sindoor - Post Conflict Analysis - Page 6 - Bharat Rakshak

Look like our ***** coping specialists are very busy there

The last time in Galwan, when China release all the video and pictures they still manage to coping it as a victory for india, I think you guys will have a much harder time fighting against their keybroad warriors than beating their joking army.

 

[52051]

China is whole lot of pain, 10x more than Pakistan.

On the bright side, that Lt General do admit fighting Pakistan is hard and maybe a little bit out of their league.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

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[hasn2009]

Fatah MLRS probably has the highest number of launch videos on record

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[wanglaokan]

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[Trailer23]

They will come. Even if Pakistan doesn't release them, third-parties will.

The Indian Military has on video officially accepted taking hits and damage already. Doesn't matter what the online Indian army says to get through this.

Yaar,
I have lived among these lying swines for over 4 Decades.

According to them, Karachi Port was Burning after Indian Navy attacked. This all while some of our friends were having Tikka in the vicinity.

They made same claim of shooting down an F-16 (with footage). Pilot Also caught. Kaha gaya Pilot?

The list of Crashes of PAF are 2 JF-17, 1 Mirage & 1 Viper.

Proof - Lund...

So, please this isn't one of their retarded Channels or Forum.

They can get unknown experts - no one has ever heard to peddle their narrative.

The a$$-whopping display from our side is enough.

 

[v9s]

There was no Chinese officer in that photo, look again. Pakistan doesn't need to "run things past the Chinese first", stop making crap up.

I might have remembered the picture wrong - my bad.
However, if the account of events I quoted is true, the PAF 100% ran the contents of the press briefing by the Chinese to ensure they weren't revealing too much.

 

[Meengla]

If Modi really means it then very dangerous for the peace in the region. India's 'new normal' is to launch attacks in Pakistan proper on all kinds of targets. Also, per an Indian forum, Indians want to keep Pakistan guessing about an Indian attack to deplete Pakistan's more meager resources and then strike with overwhelming force to 'decapitate' and destroy a lot of Pakistani military infrastructure. I believe the Modi regime is not going to swallow this latest humiliation as that would severely dent his political standing in India and will try do something really stupid and aggressive and soon. A crucial question is: Can they count on some real American support or not for that? Without that, finding courage would be harder.

PM unveils new doctrine, frames it part of global war on terror

He also kept the strategic and military doors wide open making it clear Delhi has only “suspended” its military action and will watch Pakistan’s behaviour

indianexpress.com

PM unveils new doctrine, frames it part of global war on terror​

He also kept the strategic and military doors wide open making it clear Delhi has only “suspended” its military action and will watch Pakistan’s behaviour​

WITH Uri and Balakot, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had pushed at the frontiers of deterrence. After Operation Sindoor, the most intense military campaign since Kargil, he delineated India’s new doctrine against terrorism resting on three key elements: a response on India’s terms; no tolerance for terror that hides under “nuclear blackmail”; and no distinction between the terrorists, their leaders and a government that sponsors them.

He also kept the strategic and military doors wide open making it clear Delhi has only “suspended” its military action and will watch Pakistan’s behaviour. “In the coming days we will measure every step of Pakistan on the criterion that what sort of attitude Pakistan will adopt ahead.”

Underlining that this is a “new normal”, this new policy is outlined to define Delhi’s approach that is qualitatively higher in aggression and also lowers the threshold for any future attacks.