Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Cash gk said:
All have not happened if Imran was not speaking about Injustice in Pakistan. If you speak another word in favor of Injustice you will be on my ignored list.
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Dear, i have an utmost respect for your courage and many extreme hardships which have befallen on you.

But, I have to be practical realist to be a truthful. You look things with your very specific eyes and are beholden to your very specific truths!

World does not work that way. Had he really cared about the poor of our country, first thing (and the only thing!) he should have done was to make judiciary dependent (you are not realizing, its magnitude!). If he was a true leader (in my books!), not only he should have gone for indepdent judiciary, that too, at very atomic and quantum level.

Lawyers and judges suck the life out of poor and causes changes in the gravitational pulls of the fabric of the society, that was THE ONLY ACT WHICH MATTERED!
 
Aggregate said:
There is no point in writing to this guy. He's on a rampage going around brining IK in evry topic and writing pages upon pages of articles praising him. He gives 2 - 3 replies and then blocks people if they do not praise IK. 90% of this forum is on his block list already.
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dont judge, dont hold grudge, let go. People make mistakes, you let go, you wil be forgiven.
 
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Master Chief said:
Agreed.

In fact, I don't really understand the scores of forum goers asking Pakistan to produce more evidence. There is no need. It would be counterproductive, akin to "feeding a troll".

There are multiple Indian narratives that we need to counter publicly, certainly, e.g. political, war on terror delineation, IWT, cultural, sports related, and social.

The military narrative however is not at all something that we should feel obliged to counter. Indeed, the security echelons of the strongest nations already know full well what came to pass. Everyone from USA to North Korea knows the hiding India took. India itself knows.

I say, let their sanghees and the global maratha fanbase keep barking and crashing Grok's servers, as it only makes them look stupid and it cements India's government's reputation as the no.1 source for disinformation against its own people, never mind against the rest of the world.

India's reputation is shattered in serious military circles.

We should let them cook in their own juices.

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educated indians know the truth and are very depressed.
 
Mobius said:
There is some element of truth to this, but the key point remains, Pakistani upper class society needs to stop idolising and kissing American @ss. China along with our brave service men saved our @ss. We must be aware and ready for and further misadventure.

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This video is quite a load of nonsense and whoever made this has no idea of how militaries work or a war is strategized. The guy in the video is trying to underplay the hard work, strategizing and planning that our army took in defending the country and he obviously seems to have a political agenda. What Pakistan did takes years of advance efforts and planning to reach at a point where we can get ready to fight in 2 weeks.

Pakistan spent 3 years inducting and integrating the systems related to J10s, different drone systems and 5 years were spent performing integrations with Chinese satellite systems. Fighter Jets did drills and trainings for 13 days, highways were converted to airstrips.

The drills to take our S400 were done twice since 2023 and China transferred PL15s to Pakistan right after Pehalgam, fitted and tested and ready to use. Flights upon flights came form Turkey and Defense Equipment was poured in from Belgium. Pakistan repelled 2 air attacks, repelled INS Vikranth and immediately stuck the fighter jets from India once they started the attack. That alone would have taken huge amounts of coordination, planning and training. There are videos showing movement of troops starting form Pakistan within 3 days of Pehalgam attack. The attack on India alone, would have taken at least 2 weeks of planning and placements.

We are fighting a war here, not firing a sniper where China can come, take a position, fore and leave.
 
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Pingle said:
.... who suffered more casualties? Who got more hammering? ....
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Well, what began as a bold display of might meant to cow Pakistan into never daring a conventional or proxy challenge again has now descended into India frantically insisting it inflicted more damage and killed more Pakistanis than it received in return. A hollow boast, echoing only within its own borders, as the world looks on unimpressed. If this doesn’t scream defeat, then perhaps defeat simply isn’t in your dictionary....

The fact of the matter is, India wildly overestimated its global clout, gravely underestimated its adversaries, and then overplayed its hand with misplaced arrogance, only to have it blow up in its face. ... Everything else is just background noise.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
educated indians know the truth and are very depressed.
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One has to see the public at both sides to get the simple answer. Pakistanis are celebrating. Indians are in mourning. no need for anyone to prove anything. The faces of Indians say it all.
 
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