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Indian carrier has been, is, and will be the prime target of PN in any naval misadventure by IN. Sinking the carrier which can not be hidden like the aircraft losses will be the single loss to breakdown indian spirit and cause of great humiliation.Indian navy carrier has mig29k if rafale cant do anything or su 30 or mk2000 what can mig29k do ?
but does that change the facts? who cares what people believe? IAF knew and knows what they lost and they grounded their topline fighters just after the first encounter. Who cares about what 1.3 billion internet hindus think, their perception might impact the next election result, but it does not change the actual result of this encounter and will have no bearing on the result of the next encounter.India is already pushing perceptions - from paid articles to “Friendships” being realized with known youtube and instagram bloggers.
More so - videos of “more” intact PL-15s are emerging which regardless of number fired(common in BVR battles that more than one is launched) - or if these are actually different missiles at all - means these can be put as proof that Indian aircraft dodged missiles.
So far Pakistan has failed to produce any concrete official proof of its claims no matter what electronic signatures are claimed and for whom - and only three wrecks means you cannot go with your claim of 5.
Same goes for airbases - I can take the claim of someone Ive known for 20 years but no one else cares. I call it the same dilemma of bringing a resume to a new country - I don’t trust your word of mouth. Show me images or testimonials of captured pilots - or at the end I will believe who I have.
Talking to 3 digit movements on Martin Bakers website is trying to stitch together dots that only people in the same industry or role could accept.
The wider audience is 30 seconds tik tok - and so far that is now slipping away from a very coordinated Indian effort to change the narrative at every possible channel.
probably was offered money (under the table) to malign Pakistan. As usual, their nation sells out for money, thats what they really are.View attachment 121472
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Looks like she drank the american kool-aid, and we unfortunately stopped the supply of said kool-aid.
There is some element of truth to this, but the key point remains, Pakistani upper class society needs to stop idolising and kissing American @ss. China along with our brave service men saved our @ss. We must be aware and ready for and further misadventure.
He expected Pakistan army to allow Indian attacks on Pak territory.
I have a gut feeling that sinking the carrier is a very easily achievable task for PN/PNA. This conflict got subdued otherwise the losses could’ve included vikrant as well.Indian carrier has been, is, and will be the prime target of PN in any naval misadventure by IN. Sinking the carrier which can not be hidden like the aircraft losses will be the single loss to breakdown indian spirit and cause of great humiliation.
Pakistani AWACS damaged at Bholari?
Carriers for the PN are outside the reality of Pakistan's budget. I think investing in a potent submarine fleet of around 10 and multiple aircraft squadrons/fast attack boats that can fire anti-ship missile/drones/torpedoes may be the best deterrence for Pakistan.I have a gut feeling that sinking the carrier is a very easily achievable task for PN/PNA. This conflict got subdued otherwise the losses could’ve included vikrant as well.
That said, the after effects could see our ships getting sunk as well. That’s the bad part about ships. They are sitting ducks and given that the PAF jets could be miles away from the combat scene, this would put our whole navy at a huge disadvantage unless PN decides to strike the carriers before they make their moves to ensure the MIGs don’t get to breath air and come after our ships.
The day India decides to induct F-35B in their navy, PN should be forced to get a carrier for themselves, stationed near Musandam/Khor fakkan. We will eventually need J-20 at Karachi. That thing would be a game changer for the PN and the next 15-20 years atleast, provided that India goes for F-35 that is.
Everyone must watch this video,,, Over 18 only and keep sound level to minimum
Stop blaming the Americans.View attachment 121472
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Looks like she drank the american kool-aid, and we unfortunately stopped the supply of said kool-aid.
Why not?And this unfortunately - was my fear of the unexpected outcome. Instead of “Pakistanis were victorious” or “Here is how the country came out on top”
It is “here is what Shahbaz did” or “Here is what XYZ did”.
“This is where you will lose the narrative war from 6 aircraft downed and S-400 destroyed while fighting an adversary 5 times your size” to
Pakistan was beaten badly with many strategic airbases and nuclear facilities damaged while giving fresh support to the freedom fighters in Balochistan and Pashtunistan.
Everyone else will be twiddling their thumbs while these people bungle it all up in their self fellatio
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