Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

FOOLS_NIGHTMARE said:
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these numbers are too amorphous (i.e lack crystallization)
too many planes put by enemy, too many destroyed in counter-attacks, yet, bigger goal was still proximally distant!
 
Ali_Baba said:
Then why hasn't worked to find a solution to protect this assets better on the ground ?!?!?!? It is one thing to know the problem, and quite something else to not to do anything about it ?

Shouldn't these assets have "more" and "better" protection than a fighter jet given they cost more than a fighter jet and they are a "force multipler" and have been the recipients of multiple targeted attacks already ???
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This question must ask to be the guys who are dealing those weapons. Their protection is at most imported
 
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I doubt it for a few reasons:

  • India went for ceasefire in a very very bad tactical position and knew what kind of bashing and humiliation they are gonna face. If there wasn't anything humongously wrong on their side, they would never, ever have done it in the first place, no matter if Trump or anyone else asked and no mater what kind of Threats Pakistan gave to them. Does not seem to me that they would be able to able to recover form whatever happened and then try the same again, so quickly.
  • Now Trump and his ego is involved. Trump just said today that this is his biggest achievement. India would make a massive blunder to embarrass Trump at this stage, no matter how bad the things are.
  • If 2 batteries of S400 are really down, as Pakistan is claiming (and it seeming more and more likely now with every day), India would hit itself in the foot by starting another war.

Seems to me they are just pandering to domestic audience by saying its not finished and we have set a new normal, bla, bla, without actually planning to do anything.
 
TallGuy said:
not many people understand as per reports Indians fired over 36 (its speculative) and we were able to deflect 23-25 that is huge!

that is more the 78-79% its a Huge Achievement! mind you they were fired in solvos 3 to 6 on average!

Our response was Rockets (18kg warhead) we need to get aero-ballistic missiles with MaRV. get it from any where 600-900km

we need a response against Brahmos! so we can create deterrence 400-500 fattah 3 or 4 will not work as they are not MaRV, we need something that can defeat S-400 and future Inidan Iron Dome/David sling/Arrows.

if people understand 2-4 Fattah 2 Rockets were intercepted by New Delhi Based S-400 SAM system near Hisar, India.
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wrong assessment, IMHO!
 
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1982-1988 There is a score card of PAF vs VVF ( USSR) and PAF vs Afghan Air Force. ( approx 40:1 ) . Also PAF pilots flying F-7s for the Sri Lankan Air Force shooting down two LTTE aircraft.
 
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PAF has a superb pilot training programme

Also additional to the above, we gave the USSR a ass beating in air combat during the Afghan war

I think it was 11-1, and the 1 was shot down by mistake by ourselves
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
lets be fair, India proved, war is possible without going into escalatory ladder, with world institutions by its side. Dont live in illusions
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No, it did not at all. This was a lose for India on several fronts

1) Diplomtically (Turkey and Azeris now consider you and enemy)
2) Economically (Trump treating India same as Pak)
3) Militarily (losses speak for themselves)

Nice try Rakesh
 
Maarkhoor said:
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@RescueRanger @Oscar

Nice insight to listen what intellectuals now thinking about BJP / RSS.
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  • Involve Pakistan in every little problem of yours
  • Involve Pakistan in your elections
  • Shout Pakistan 4,775 times a day on your Media
  • Make it your strategic targets to isolate, stop loans of Pakistan
  • Invite every ragtag militia on your Media, when they attack Pakistan
  • Lick the feet of Taliban so they can help you against Pakistan
  • Mindlessly build your airforce based on jealousy of Pak AF (still fail)
  • Make 5 bollywood Movies a month about Pakistan
  • Cry about Pakistan at government level 2,000 times a day
meanwhile nobody in Pakistan was giving 2 fu**s about India since 2019, until Modi decided that he wants to get finger** again .. and then the freaking cry about India getting rehyphenated with Pakistan, nice going 🤦‍♂️ clowns !
 
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