Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

Reinforces what i have been saying, as well as the military defeat, Indian Media and Indian Diplomacy now viewed very differently globally

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/17/world/asia/india-news-media-misinformation.html

 

[Mobius]

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[Yasser76]

It's precisely why Pakistanis need to effectively kind of just get the hell out of the way in always engaging India and bickering with India on everything. People from the outside, just see it as two people having a squabble


It's also a clear projection, that if India were to continue to get richer, let's just say much much richer, then they will not think twice about using any economic influence they have to apply in a vindictive way.


This is, after all exactly what they have done to Pakistan in cricket.

Too many Pakistanis, assume that Indians take up a fight in the same way that they might think of a fight, they do not, they are clearly going for economic domination and then hoping for subjugation



A collective psyche, is developed generation after generation after generation, military prowess has not been in any way a prominent feature, so please everyone do the bloody obvious math and workout the attack approach

True, Pakistan desperatley needs to work on it's economy but things seem to be moving in the right direction slowly.

India's economic might continues to be signficant but massievley overhyped.

They failed at FATF and IMF. Pakistan remains a player globally and luckily we have had close allies bail us out. I am not saying this is a good thing, but this is what has helped us in the past. We now need to move forward and help ourselves

 

[Hayabusa]

It's funny how 11 years ago, Modi made it his mission to isolate Pakistan on the international stage.

Now in 2025, countries other than Israel, are either neutral or supporting Pakistan.

 

[Corax]

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This is an amazing assessment!! IAF fighters being destroyed on final approach to their airbases with landing gear down! The PAF managed to jam their meteors? Jam their Comms, which led to them having to use unencrypted radio Comms?

The thing I've never understood, is why hasn't the PAF expanded it's Blinder fleet? What will be IAFs response, will we see them copying PAF tactics and equipment?

 

[Sal12]

Is ka easy load Khatam hogaya hai.

Do you not think there should be some evidence provided by military establishment of its strikes on India otherwise they are merely claims made by military. We have seen the satellite images of Indian strike on Pakistan airbases. Where are images of Pak strike on Indian airbases.

 

[r3alist]

True, Pakistan desperatley needs to work on it's economy but things seem to be moving in the right direction slowly.

India's economic might continues to be signficant but massievley overhyped.

They failed at FATF and IMF. Pakistan remains a player globally and luckily we have had close allies bail us out. I am not saying this is a good thing, but this is what has helped us in the past. We now need to move forward and help ourselves

FATF was simply the USA indulging India such that India could hopefully shut up about Pakistan, and take China seriously

the Americans will use Pakistan to discipline India, just look at everything that's happening in the last 18 months, Bangladesh, Tejas failures, and now this.

the Indian psyche, especially under the less rhetorically diverse modi, is so completely predictable that America always knew they had this card up their sleeve.

The question on the economy, however is an altogether separate challenge that should have its own vision, plan and intended outcomes. The elite need to take some accountability here to develop the people, and industry in a proper way. Also need to take green, esg and environmental considerations very seriously.

 

[vlonglenga+]

One question in this whole episode, where’s the IAF Chief? Senior members, any insights on why he’s been missing and why he wasn’t seen alongside Modi when he visited IAF base.

 

[r3alist]

This is an amazing assessment!! IAF fighters being destroyed on final approach to their airbases with landing gear down! The PAF managed to jam their meteors? Jam their Comms, which led to them having to use unencrypted radio Comms?

The thing I've never understood, is why hasn't the PAF expanded it's Blinder fleet? What will be IAFs response, will we see them copying PAF tactics and equipment?

I find him an informative Twitter account, and I believe I posted him first

 

[Yasser76]

This is an amazing assessment!! IAF fighters being destroyed on final approach to their airbases with landing gear down! The PAF managed to jam their meteors? Jam their Comms, which led to them having to use unencrypted radio Comms?

The thing I've never understood, is why hasn't the PAF expanded it's Blinder fleet? What will be IAFs response, will we see them copying PAF tactics and equipment?

Agree, 3 old Falcon 20s (albeit with modern EW kit) seems little, especially when we have 10 odd Erieyes. I imagine must be a cost thing.

 

[Goenitz]

Dear I have checked - Good News! Overlord 3 is just damaged at wings will be repaired at depot level! . By grace of All Mighty.

Mind you! after the air battle IAF was grounded (300km) no fly zone was in effect from LOC to IB from north to south - 400km No fly zone was in effect at sea.

Indians rightly concluded that the main cause of PAIN was AEW Assets and EW assets, they tried there best to engage and shoot it down for this they push their S-400 SAM System forward. that is where PAF hacked them one at Adampur took hits and went Un operational. same goes for S400 SAM units at Bhuj or Naliya.

Were Brahmos dudds or what? as the hanger remains intact! or was it jammed and it didn't explode, but did a kinetic damage (highly unlikely)? or it couldn't damage due to less explosive (for higher range) or it plunged into the ground due to a delay fuse etc?
Anyway, glad our valuable assets are restored.

 

[r3alist]

I find him an informative Twitter account, and I believe I posted him first

Everywhere I listen


Re-hyphenate
Re-hyphenate



It's grammatically ok but it's not a common word.....


I coined it's usage ages ago, in anticipation of it occurring.

now every bloody commentator is using it

 

[r3alist]

Ok India will lose allies and friends at this rate

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[Ali_Baba]

This is an amazing assessment!! IAF fighters being destroyed on final approach to their airbases with landing gear down! The PAF managed to jam their meteors? Jam their Comms, which led to them having to use unencrypted radio Comms?

The thing I've never understood, is why hasn't the PAF expanded it's Blinder fleet? What will be IAFs response, will we see them copying PAF tactics and equipment?

Think the next move for PAF for EW Jamming is the Turkish HAVSOJ platform. They have already purchase a executive jet for conversion for it.

HAVSOJ is the strategic replacement for the current Blinders platforms when they run out of service life, or are no longer capable.

 

[Yasser76]

Think the next move for PAF for EW Jamming is the Turkish HAVSOJ platform. They have already purchase a executive jet for conversion for it.

Agreed. I think 3-4 planes is enough.

Unlike AEW where we need 2 planes or more in the air all the time, hence a fleet of 10, with EW it will be only during specific missions, so maybe 3-4 is enough. Most major air forces has EW fleets that are smaller then their AEW fleets