Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Watandar said:
And after buying the F16's, they will send their pilots and ground crew for training with PAF!
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The Indonesians might. But without the ABC ecosystem, the they will not be able to replicate what the PAF could do. They could build their own ecosystem with an AWACS, and the PAF could surely be of help in that regard.
 
Be dazzled said:
Implication of IAF failure against PAF on Europe.
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Downing of Indian fighter jet offers lessons for West

During last week's military attack on Pakistan, India apparently lost at least one modern French fighter jet to Chinese-made air-defense systems. The loss represents a wake-up call to Europe to reexamine its defense strategies.
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Your secrets are your prisoners, when you let them out you become their prisoners - Hazret-i Ali (RA)

Rafales are earmarked for carrying nukes! Sell some defense gadgets to Bharat, and say goodbye to your secrets....
 
Cash gk said:
I’ve written my article. The implications are far greater than what we are currently seeing. They conducted their test—and failed. They thought they could beat Pakistan and then prepare themselves for China. But the Americans have now realized that they couldn’t even overpower Pakistan, a much smaller country. So how will they defeat China? The implications India for this failure are already beginning to show.
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Inside the arena, a gladiator's defeat = his death....
 
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Shit.
Pakistan turned the command and radar systems of S-400 into the total scrap. Modi's disgraceful attempt of deception couldn't hide the truth.
 
Maarkhoor said:
Surprise, PL-15 E.
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How many times even on this forum that our pilots got training from French disguise as Qatari pilots later our pilots trained Qatari air force and we completely know inside and outside of Rafales but Indians laugh...LOls

Now they are crying.

Update: India order 26 + 3 more Rafales but France refuses and ut condition that first they train Indian pilots in France and after training they will evaluate either they can fly or not.
 
I think our side still has not highlighted that India started their attacked with a nuclear capable missile i.e. Brahmos. Pakistan doesnt have means to distinguish a conventional vs nuclear strike and it could have led to our side to go nuclear. India is emboldened by US and the cancer of the world aka Israel and our side should understand that the only solution is to go berserk on India next time they try their shenanigans.
 
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StormBreaker said:
Moeed pirzada and Adil raja have gone completely mad and rogue. You may disagree with the establishment but why downplaying PAF’s achievements on international media?

There’s a very thin line between being a genuine rebel and being a traitor to millat. They’ve just crossed that line now.
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I agree. I still listen to Moeed Pirzada. But he has lost the plot. Because of his personal hatred against the Pakistani military he cannot give a balanced unbiased fact based reporting (or dot connecting as he likes to call it).

He has used the public support for of Imran Khan to position himself as some sort of a champion of democracy and Imran Khan's struggle. But is only taking advantage of that sentiment to further his own agenda.

As someone else said.... Moeed Pirzada is unable to recalibrate after the Trump and now Indian aggression against Pakistan. He is seems like a headless chicken running around.

Pakistani military establishment are no saints themselves... If India did not agree to a seize fire, the military would have ultimately lost because it does not really have the support of the population. The Pak Army are themselves riding on the success of the PAF for now.
 
StormBreaker said:
Moeed pirzada and Adil raja have gone completely mad and rogue. You may disagree with the establishment but why downplaying PAF’s achievements on international media?

There’s a very thin line between being a genuine rebel and being a traitor to millat. They’ve just crossed that line now.
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Pakistanis need to be careful, alot of people/journalists are downplaying and targeting our military on purpose for their own interests. It doesn't mean everything is false but they add massala to everything. These 2 definitely need to be boycotted.
 
r3alist said:
That's literally like saying, Indians went to a boxing match and were surprised that punches were thrown.





I can't decide whether it's ineptness, actual retardation in the Indian military forces, mixed up with paf air superiority and a superior class of Chinese technology and doctrine, how much do we really wait these things? I actually only think that the paf are in a position to assess this soberly


Finally, imagine a scenario, what if the Chinese air force were literally to go full force on India tomorrow, they could literally roll the skies north to south.... That actually does not seem farfetched
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Combination of two dangerous qualities: Incompetence + Arrogance
 
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