Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Vox Non Dei said:
I do not think so anything like that is coming. Its now more than 2 weeks and nothing has shown up. Counter evidence is however available. This is a complete false hope for Pakistan that some secret hidden evidence will show up.
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All we know is that relevant personnel will keep dying in accident just like post 2019.

If it weren’t for some SM posts providing videos and photos we would be arguing that there were no IAF aircraft losses either.
 
Bilal said:
All we know is that relevant personnel will keep dying in accident just like post 2019.
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Is that so big? Indian defence personnel die all year round. Most of time they are not even reported. Its not that hard to imagine. A force totalling in millions is bound to lose people in 1000s each year to accidents, natural calamity and disease. That average 2-3 death a day.

Here is from US military: https://247wallst.com/special-repor...died-in-the-us-military-each-year-since-1980/

Indian military is even bigger in personnels.

Bilal said:
If it weren’t for some SM posts providing videos and photos we would be arguing that there were no IAF aircraft losses either.
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I doubt Indian officials ever denied loss of aircrafts.
 
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r3alist said:
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Yes tell them how you got your air defenses and jets banged out and had to beg America a for a ceasefire. Poor little victim India :ROFLMAO:
 
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Vox Non Dei said:
Is that so big? Indian defence personnel die all year round. Most of time they are not even reported. Its not that hard to imagine. A force totalling in millions is bound to lose people in 1000s each year to accidents, natural calamity and disease. That average 2-3 death a day.

Here is from US military: https://247wallst.com/special-repor...died-in-the-us-military-each-year-since-1980/

Indian military is even bigger in personnels.


I doubt Indian officials ever denied loss of aircrafts.
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Relevant personnel.

They didn’t deny the damages to the relevant installations either.
 
r3alist said:
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Its a mission to save own @ss from wife killing case and Mr. Tharoor trying to win a seat in BJP Govt by joining BJP since he is and was subjected to blackmailed by BJP Govt for his crime and congress know this that Mr. Shashi is compromised so his life and political career is downfall so he trying hard to stay afloat.
 
Bilal said:
Relevant personnel.

They didn’t deny the damages to the relevant installations either.
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How do you decide which personnels are relevant? Besides, more importantly, if you believe that India is trying to hide its losses, why do you even believe the rank and postings of those persnnels being reported? If hiding losses if the aim, they will hide even ranks and postings or report them falsely.

As far as installations go, by now such high resolution satellite images are available that it is impossible to hide any damage. Only damage to installation found was a military infirmary that seems to be destroyed. That was even mentioned in 10th May conference.
 
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Vox Non Dei said:
How do you decide which personnels are relevant? Besides, more importantly, if you believe that India is trying to hide its losses, why do you even believe the rank and postings of those persnnels being reported? If hiding losses if the aim, they will hide even ranks and postings or report them falsely.

As far as installations go, by now such high resolution satellite images are available that it is impossible to hide any damage. Only damage to installation found was a military infirmary that seems to be destroyed. That was even mentioned in 10th May conference.
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Oh please. Relevant means, for instance, Pakistan claims MKI and MKI pilots get killed in a “road accident” a bit later.

And oh please. On May 10:

1. Damage was sustained to equipment and personnel at IAF bases at Udhampur, Pathankot, Adampur and Bhuj.

2. High speed missile attacks causing heavy damages to other military stations at Kupwara, Baramula, Poonch, Rajouri and Akhnoor sectors.

3. Indian armed forces reiterate their commitment to non-escalation.

Source: indian MOD brief.

indian MOD is very averse to admitting any losses, so admitted losses/damages should be multiplied by 10 at least .



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Bilal said:
Oh please. Relevant means, for instance, Pakistan claims MKI and MKI pilots get killed in a “road accident” a bit later.
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And why will you trust Indian sources if India is lying? They can simply lie about rank and posting of a person. Why the lying will stop at date of dying?
 
Bilal said:
And oh please. On May 10:

1. Damage was sustained to equipment and personnel at IAF bases at Udhampur, Pathankot, Adampur and Bhuj.

2. High speed missile attacks causing heavy damages to other military stations at Kupwara, Baramula, Poonch, Rajouri and Akhnoor sectors.

3. Indian armed forces reiterate their commitment to non-escalation.

Source: indian MOD brief.
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This is false and misrepresentation. Can you point to the source?
 
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