Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[iblini]

How the PAF literally ghosted the rafale before mercilessly killing it. Worth listening.

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Not next generation air to air missile but current gen, next gen is almost here if not already here, PL-15 was loved among Chinese people but unlike Indian always boast about their Rafale, SU-30MKI, Tejas state of art blah blah, the Chinese people realised we have not shown enough love for the missile and J-10 prior that night.

 

[safriz]

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The Rafale fired a missile after crash?

 

[That_Guy]

How the PAF literally ghosted the rafale before mercilessly killing it. Worth listening.

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Don't like the video, I'm sorry. It's filled with some basic misinformation and sounds like an AI voice over video.

Simple example about the misinfo, it says the PL-15 is a ramjet powered missile, it is not. The PL-15 is a Dual-Pulse motor engine. Also, the report about how the Rafale pilots felt? That's just more misinfo. So far as we know, not a single one of the Indian pilots that were involved in the skirmish were ever interviewed by anyone publicly.

 

[CSAW]

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[Al-Zakir]

India lost

If India doesn't calm down and introspect on why it's losing repeatedly, then the humiliation will only get worse for India in future

Bharti nation is in status of extreme shock. They were highly disappointed by the action from Pak. They were expecting no retaliation from Pak because in their bollywood mind that Pak would not dare to retaliate super gobar power cowmata Bhataat.

 

[iblini]

I am wondering if the IAF knew their problem, gaps and if they had any measurement based on that, if they are being totally blind in this field, there must be some major issue in their af intelligence department.

 

[Developereo]

So much focus on the airforce.

We know already that the next war will be 90% G2G or A2G missiles. The primary role for the air force will be to try and take out the other side's AD before the missile war begins. That's where we need the J-35.

India's current diplomatic tour is to lay the groundwork for their next war, which is coming in weeks or months. After the diplomatic disaster of the last war and almost 0% global support (except of course Israel), India realized its mistake.

 

[safriz]

So much focus on the airforce.

We know already that the next war will be 90% G2G or A2G missiles. The primary role for the air force will be to try and take out the other side's AD before the missile war begins. That's where we need the J-35.

India's current diplomatic tour is to lay the groundwork for their next war, which is coming in weeks or months. After the diplomatic disaster of the last war and almost 0% global support (except of course Israel), India realized its mistake.

I didn't think so.
They have sent their so called diplomatic missions to non influential countries, which matter not.
More of a holiday trip for Indian politicians to shut them up and keep them busy until focus shifts elsewhere.
A way of saving Modi from grilling.

About impending war, yes Pakistan should be ready, but realistically they had been hit hard this time.
It will take time for them to recover and regroup. I reckon at least an year.

 

[Developereo]

I didn't think so.
They have sent their so called diplomatic missions to non influential countries, which matter not.
More of a holiday trip for Indian politicians to shut them up and keep them busy until focus shifts elsewhere.
A way of saving Modi from grilling.

About impending war, yes Pakistan should be ready, but realistically they had been hit hard this time.
It will take time for them to recover and regroup. I reckon at least an year.

Let us not live in a fantasy world.

Indian BrahMos is deadly and we have nothing to counter it. We won the airforce battle but India won the missile war. That is where they will focus next time.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

What I can see that india is buliding more in offensive to defensive technology.

For an example - heavily investing on defence technology alike kusha missile defence, akash and multiple projects from small to medium. And adding too many sam systems that can now not allow any enemy aircrafts to deep strike. And protection against missiles and rockets

Project Kusha Air Defence System: India developing desi S400-like missile system, prototype likely in a year

Project Kusha Air Defence System: Bharat Electronics is actively involved in developing the indigenous S-400 type long-range SAM system under Project Kusha, with a prototype expected in 12-18 months. BEL anticipates a Rs 30,000 crore order for the QRSAM system and their Akashteer air defence...

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India plans to buy this massive $4 billion wall-like radar to neutralise Chinese threats from 6,000 km away

India is on the verge of signing a significant $4 billion defence deal with Russia for the Voronezh radar system, a cutting-edge early-warning radar with extensive threat-detection capabilities. The system, expected to strengthen Indias air defence and surveillance in Asia and the Indian Ocean...

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BEL signs contract with Army for Indigenous Counter-Drone System, secures orders worth Rs 572 crore

Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has secured a contract with the Indian Army for the Integrated Drone Detection and Interdiction System (IDDIS), bolstering India's defense capabilities. BEL's indigenously designed Akashteer air defense system demonstrated its effectiveness during recent tensions...

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And other way - developing and increasing the range of missiles alike brahmos and developing hypersonic Missiles.

Combination of both will going to play major roles in war, as success of Aakash missile systems and S400, I thought they can go for S500 missile defence systems as well but now india does not have any plan - will focus on now " kusha missile defence"

 

[Oscar]

What I can see that india is buliding more in offensive to defensive technology.

For an example - heavily investing on defence technology alike kusha missile defence, akash and multiple projects from small to medium. And adding too many sam systems that can now not allow any enemy aircrafts to deep strike. And protection against missiles and rockets

Project Kusha Air Defence System: India developing desi S400-like missile system, prototype likely in a year

Project Kusha Air Defence System: Bharat Electronics is actively involved in developing the indigenous S-400 type long-range SAM system under Project Kusha, with a prototype expected in 12-18 months. BEL anticipates a Rs 30,000 crore order for the QRSAM system and their Akashteer air defence...

m.economictimes.com

India plans to buy this massive $4 billion wall-like radar to neutralise Chinese threats from 6,000 km away

India is on the verge of signing a significant $4 billion defence deal with Russia for the Voronezh radar system, a cutting-edge early-warning radar with extensive threat-detection capabilities. The system, expected to strengthen Indias air defence and surveillance in Asia and the Indian Ocean...

m.economictimes.com

BEL signs contract with Army for Indigenous Counter-Drone System, secures orders worth Rs 572 crore

Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has secured a contract with the Indian Army for the Integrated Drone Detection and Interdiction System (IDDIS), bolstering India's defense capabilities. BEL's indigenously designed Akashteer air defense system demonstrated its effectiveness during recent tensions...

m.economictimes.com

And other way - developing and increasing the range of missiles alike brahmos and developing hypersonic Missiles.

Combination of both will going to play major roles in war, as success of Aakash missile systems and S400, I thought they can go for S500 missile defence systems as well but now india does not have any plan - will focus on now " kusha missile defence"

Without systems integration and more importantly humility - these will be useless materialism as well.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Without systems integration and more importantly humility - these will be useless materialism as well.

That's about trust - just like you trust blindly on Chinese systems.

But in those critical 4 days, Indian-developed drone and SAM systems proved everyone wrong. They did performed beyond the expections.

Most incoming rockets and missiles were intercepted—**not by imported tech**, but by our own **Akash missile systems** and sams and others with integrated radar networks. Even older platforms like the **L70** were actively used against drones, showing that when modern upgrades meet legacy strength, the result is powerful.

Indian radars have integrated with multiple sam systems, based on the threats they response. For example drones - they don't use costly missiles or systems alike s400 or akash.

**S-400** That was held in reserve—used sparingly. Because our homegrown systems handled the bulk of the threat.

This wasn’t just defense—it was performance under pressure. Integrations is not an problem, it's a something not depending on share their key technology. India has developed on these areas very strongly.

 

[Panzerkiel]

 

[studsmart]

That's about trust - just like you trust blindly on Chinese systems.

But in those critical 4 days, Indian-developed drone and SAM systems proved everyone wrong. They did performed beyond the expections.

Most incoming rockets and missiles were intercepted—**not by imported tech**, but by our own **Akash missile systems** and sams and others with integrated radar networks. Even older platforms like the **L70** were actively used against drones, showing that when modern upgrades meet legacy strength, the result is powerful.

Indian radars have integrated with multiple sam systems, based on the threats they response. For example drones - they don't use costly missiles or systems alike s400 or akash.

**S-400** That was held in reserve—used sparingly. Because our homegrown systems handled the bulk of the threat.

This wasn’t just defense—it was performance under pressure. Integrations is not an problem, it's a something not depending on share their key technology. India has developed on these areas very strongly.

Are u living on Jupiter