Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Panzerkiel]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Cash gk]

Most of the Brahmos went through and hit the intended targets. The targets engaged were all high value assets. The claim that many were intercepted doesn’t seem to hold an unbiased scrutiny. If the high value assets were engaged then what were the intercepted missiles attacking?

It may also be kept in mind that this attack wasn’t an all out one but just signalling to indicate, what can be hit, if further escalation takes place. Thats why missiles were fired at targets from north to south at varying depths to attack one target at each place.

Whether, Mobile Command Centre at Nur Khan was still not commissioned or Bholari hangar had nothing inside or Runway attacks caused minor scratches is secondary.
The attacks were precise and indicated accurate intelligence.

Pakistan didn’t just defend it dismantled your overhyped military pride. Your BrahMos missile storage was destroyed, confirmed by your own nuclear agency with a 3km radiation alert. The very weapons you relied on were neutralized in the first three days of war. Your entire defense argument was built around three pillars: S-400, Rafale, and BrahMos all of which were systematically neutralized in just four days. On top of that, your electronic warfare systems and communication grids were hacked, leaving your forces exposed and directionless. You fired your best weapons first, lost the element of surprise, and exposed your weakness. Pakistan didn’t just survive it outsmarted and outplayed you.

 

[Cash gk]

.
As expected, you missed the points entirely.
Anyway, keep hyping things if that’s what you feel happy. I just given example of china the same way it gets applied for AcceptingUSA as well.

**Good day."**

Thanks for accepting. This is how we were dominating never ever underestimate your adversary.
Regards

 

[Gripen9]

Winners other than Pak armed forces of this skirmish….

Thomas Keith (@iwasneverthere_)


Rabia Akhtar- Most Robust foreign policy and Pak point of view available right now. She needs to be given a bigger voice in Pak foreign policy think tank

Mohsin Ali (@mohsin_o2) for OSINT

Pleasantly surprised by their posting on X

 

[Olympus81]

Although Pakistan won this battle, from a strategic perspective the Indian government is trying its best to hold IWT in abeyance without global condemnation.

The Hindutva’s water terrorism is what Pakistan should be focusing on. There is very little time to celebrate.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Pakistan didn’t just defend it dismantled your overhyped military pride. Your BrahMos missile storage was destroyed, confirmed by your own nuclear agency with a 3km radiation alert. The very weapons you relied on were neutralized in the first three days of war. Your entire defense argument was built around three pillars: S-400, Rafale, and BrahMos all of which were systematically neutralized in just four days. On top of that, your electronic warfare systems and communication grids were hacked, leaving your forces exposed and directionless. You fired your best weapons first, lost the element of surprise, and exposed your weakness. Pakistan didn’t just survive it outsmarted and outplayed you.

Like many others, you sound like a fanboy. And there is no way to convince one.

Not one element of proof of any attack on Indian high value targets claimed by you. DGISPR claimed that we attacked across the entire front and 26 airbases, but went silent when it came to proving any proof of these.

All about radiation leak etc was propagated about Kirana Hills too but it was all part of misinformation campaign. It was OK to believe the narrative being dished out by one’s own side when the conflict is On, but 2 weeks later any rational person would start sifting trough chaff and grains and see the reality.

There is no element of doubt now that Air Defence this side did a stellar job and didn’t let anyone through to attack any high value target. How do we know? If there was even a partial success in any of these attacks from Pakaistn side then they would have come out with battle damage assessment, the way it was brought out for the Paksiatni side.

Forget about them, even the private agencies have got hold of these and are available all over as a proof.

So chest thumping is fine for Air to Air part, where IAF suffered losses.

But your side AD was exposed and found wanting and couldn’t protect high value assets even within few miles from the National Capital.

 

[Master Chief]

It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands

Yes and no. Next war will be missile-predominant, however air force role will be more critical than you suggest. Air superiority will facilitate a missile war. With air superiority, enemy AD will be neutralised and missiles will hit their targets more often. Lots of Brahmos landed in the desert last time.

 

[mythbuster]

Pakistan shall be careful....India has yet to unleash her vedic weapons

 

[iblini]

So, slowly aerial engagement and airforce are not as important because both side does not has the ability to carry out mission across the border, what a load of bs, what a way of admitting failure and find a new toy to boast, lol, it just too obvious from these people.

 

[Vapnope]

Indians have yet to provide the evidence of F16 that was shot down in 2019, we will come back to 2025 later on.

Reading their comments here and on other social media platforms, it is abundantly clear to me that showing restraint to them has been the biggest blunder from our side. This isn't your average peer adversary, this is a genocidal adversary who has no moral rules left whatsoever.

 

[Gripen9]

Ok this was funny

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Olympus81]

The IAF completely botched it and we see Indians coping that airforces will have a lesser role to play and missiles will be at the forefront going forward. Simplistic arguments to say the least. There are multiple layers of complexities at play here.

Balakot 2019 - botched strikes by IAF, and then next day faced embarrassment to see PAF show SOW weapons homing in HQs in IoK and lost an IAF pilot trying to defend.

Then 2025, IAF learns from their mistakes, deploys its SOW weapons within its border but lose few of their jets. See the trend?

Whatever Indians have done, they have been second best when it comes to war strategy.

The fact that an adversary relies on Brahmos, their premier weapon, the 1st and 2nd day tells you alot.

Go on fool your public. These won’t fly here.

As I said above, this was just a battle in a grand scheme of things. The bigger discussion is IWT, the Indian ambition. Bunyan un Marsoos, if seen through the prism of war diplomacy, may have got the Indians on the backfoot but this was but a move on the chess board called diplomacy.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands

Keep believing this buddy, its the same hubris that has got you a whooping in 2019 and 2025. Not content with your airforce being grounded you now try and down play the role of air power? Its actually great under modi any logic in warfare is discarded and instead chest thumping and internet bravado is the new norm.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Indians have yet to provide the evidence of F16 that was shot down in 2019, we will come back to 2025 later on.

Reading their comments here and on other social media platforms, it is abundantly clear to me that showing restraint to them has been the biggest blunder from our side. This isn't your average peer adversary, this is a genocidal adversary who has no moral rules left whatsoever.

india is more than 7× bigger than Pakistan and has the full backing of the west, america, israel and russia YET they still got severely battered, humiliated and castrated by Pakistan. THAT'S what hurts the indians the most. They are painfully aware of this reality. Just before the attack on Pakistan, indians were saying that they are going to do to Pakistan what the israelis are doing to the Gazans. Yet the ending was VERY different.

YES, indians are genocidal maniacs with no morals and should be treated as such. In the coming months and years, Pakistan will shred it's restraint with regards to india.

 

[Vapnope]

The IAF completely botched it and we see Indians coping that airforces will have a lesser role to play and missiles will be at the forefront going forward. Simplistic arguments to say the least. There are multiple layers of complexities at play here.

Balakot 2019 - botched strikes by IAF, and then next day faced embarrassment to see PAF show SOW weapons homing in HQs in IoK and lost an IAF pilot trying to defend.

Then 2025, IAF learns from their mistakes, deploys its SOW weapons within its border but lose few of their jets.

Whatever Indians have done, they have been second best when it comes to war strategy.

The fact that an adversary relies on Brahmos, their premier weapon, the 1st and 2nd day tells you alot.

Go on fool your public. These won’t fly here.

Forget about 2025, i need the evidence of 2016 Surgical strikes first, second i need evidence of F16 lost on 2019. Indian show a damaged hanger and present it as an evidence of c130 lost, saab 2000 lost. Let's ask them to show us saab or c130 pictures first. AVM Aurangzeb showed a lot of unnecessary respect to clowns of IAF or Indian air FARCE.