Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Update: Diplomatic battle starts with France and India since France wants to investigate the causes and numbers of downed Rafale jets but India don't want to allow French investigation further Indians are claiming that French refuse to share source code and delivered downgraded version of Rafale.

Confirmed News.
 
Meanwhile most Indians and international media got their inputs from highly controlled Military briefings everyday with info no one has disputed yet.

Do you work for or know anyone from those most indians? Because you make way more sense buddy.
 
Truth is the only casualty of war...as the saying goes, Pakistan and India treat cricket like war, and war like cricket. Let's see what happens in the next match. Sometimes it difficult to distinguish between the two...I mean, place an Indian next to a Pakistani and it's difficult to tell between the two.

Making racism great again in Britain.
 
The decoys were truly fantastic. So fantastic that they flew with real pilots, real missiles that ignited after the crash impact, real ejector seats for the aforementioned real pilots, and real jet fighter purchase receipts for which France and Russia have copies for their upcoming audit.
The decoys had ejection seats as well
The decoys also emitted audio-messages with synthesized male human voice using call signs like Godzilla
 
Indians are claiming that French refuse to share source code and delivered downgraded version of Rafale.

Confirmed News.
Folks export the defence equipment they can afford to lose. No surprise here. Bharat is all after "strategic autonomy": to milk everyone to be the first in the queue when the food is served and the last in the queue when fighting starts. So, she shouldn't ask for real commitment and stuffs....
 
Beautifully orchestrated with precision and poise. How India managed to channel the visceral hatred found in her masses and direct them towards an epicenter of backwardness, truly a Netflix classic.

Indian government represents democratic suicidal genocidal will of an average Indian.

You would now see phase 2 of operation Sindoor where Pakistanis would be fooled again by concept of good and bad Indian and how India is being held captive by an extremist mob. All the while India prepares to attack big.
I really really hope our planners can have such clarity about what we are dealing with. Thank you for writing this.
 
Seeking knowledge, I find him a very intelligent person, a gem of a person who can answer my questions without the need for propaganda, he has shed light on actual events and how things unfolded in a very professional logical way.

I am tired of listening to what PTV has to say about this conflict, indian media is bigger more resourceful, more money they must have more accurate information.

@Musings

Dekh lo bhai. Ab main kia bolon
 
Macron getting slapped by his wife for giving India Rafaels :ROFLMAO:

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Operation Sindoor has liberated French women.

Now Indians just need to morally support Melania's struggle.
 
You are right but there are still weakness that needs to be addressed and why sit back and relax.

You are right that india can start a full fledged war and this will cause us to lose our parts etc. question is why we have such a defensive mindset now? Why wait for enemy to strike again? Why play chess according to Indian rule where after every terrorist attack, india has to attack pakistan. At least this is what they are saying and they are now rules of the game.

Now change the rules of the game. When Musharraf started kargil, it was for showcase the world the pakistan military can caught india with its neck despite india being the bigger side numerically. Although we lost kargil but Indians lost mentally. Strategically, it was Pakistani victory and india waited decades before attempting attack on pakistan which I guess is 2019 standoff.

Here the game is live and both players know the rules but what if pakistan do something unexpected from its side? Yes I am urging another kargil without caring for results. Sone territory of india or Kashmir needs to be captured by us so as to put pressure on india and sign a new indus water treaty deal.

Water will stop slowly slowly. We will be at war after sone time but course of war can be changed by Indian intelligence because they have thousands of freedom fighters in their jails so they can send any number of fighters to attack their own people and hurrah! War starts. This will be at a time when they are ready and there are hints like more s-400 to cover more territories. They will button some new jets and when they are sure, they will start one final war.

Weakness of our ADS.they know they can hit with brahmos so basically all this bravado from their side is nothing new. When they detonated nuclear device, they were talking about doing attacks in pakistan. Today they know the weakness of our ADS. That’s why they are talking about war without hesitation.


What we need to do?

We need an aggressive foreign policy that declares Kashmir as integral part of pakistan.

We must not play chess according to Indian rule. Another kargil is necessary and is needed. This will put more pressure on india and fake bravado of Indian government will be seen by their own people who all want war at all cost. Thing is you have to humiliate their government in front of their people in order to play chess according to our rule.

Lack of international support for Pakistan and isolation. This is what india is trying before final war. Signs can be seen and every script is written on the wall.

Pakistan must play this game according to Musharraf mindset. Be aggressive, let them fear. This is how we scared india since independence and this is now Muslim invaders invaded india. Fear is necessary.

Another kargil, declaring Kashmir as integral part of pakistan or probably china as well to involve china in war etc, is necessary. Think of having a slice of pizza. China and pakistan can settle land issues after they capture Indian Kashmir. Problem solved.

I have seen indian policy since decades. I know what they are doing and why they are doing all this. This defensive policy will not last forever and will eventually fail. 3 things I want from pakistan and pak armed forces.

1) Declare Kashmir as integral part of china and Pakistan with india not a party in the dispute. Urge india to vacate Indian Kashmir or else. Threaten them just like they are threatening us( Musharraf policy)

2) start another kargil and don’t care about the result. This will destroy Indian strategic planning and destroy their morals.

3) for water or after terrorist attack, prepare for one final war and ask china that they are legal party on Kashmir despite so both china and pakistan can fight against Indian military.

All these 3 things are mandatory for the existence of pakistan. There is no time.
Interestingly, Pravin s, everyone's favourite analyst in South Asia, just released a video where he predicted that Pakistan will Indeed be the aggressor in the next round

Now, I tried to play a little bit of devil's advocate on both sides, and I don't agree with everything you state, but in principle maybe it is the time for Pakistan to be more proactive than reactive.

The difference right now, is the heft and capability of China plus Pakistan can deter India in a true hybrid sense , unlike during kaegil

However ,you cannot play analog in the digital world, you cannot view conflict in the black and white TV, when it is being conducted in something like the metaverse, the unseen spectrums


On the point of water, you have to sensibly look at this in terms of population growth, climate change, and global warming. Comprehensive national security, actually takes this into account, going back to the old status quo is not even optimal, but of course is necessary
 
I really really hope our planners can have such clarity about what we are dealing with. Thank you for writing this.

i hate to break it to you, we have no planners. From the most junior civil servant taking oath today to Field Marshall everyone has an utter unflinching faith that God Almighty is the only planner.
 

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