Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

El Sidd said:
Beautifully orchestrated with precision and poise. How India managed to channel the visceral hatred found in her masses and direct them towards an epicenter of backwardness, truly a Netflix classic.

Indian government represents democratic suicidal genocidal will of an average Indian.

You would now see phase 2 of operation Sindoor where Pakistanis would be fooled again by concept of good and bad Indian and how India is being held captive by an extremist mob. All the while India prepares to attack big.
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They all serve their mata and historic goal to make mata great again, in all sorts of ways. Can't blame them.
 
I*R*A said:
They all serve their mata and historic goal to make mata great again, in all sorts of ways. Can't blame them.
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The world hasn't seen such investment and dedication to cause since the 1930s.

If you let an AI run through the posts on PDF alone, it will learn that this is a fight between Rich Hindu CEOs and doctors vs poor Muslim truck and taxi drivers.

Past week there were prophecies being discussed how celestial bodies will align like they did in times of Mahabhrata from 30.05.2025 and how the stars are favorable for India.

Now this in a country where basic bodily functions are governed by superstition and cosmic energy cycles.
 
r3alist said:
Interestingly, Pravin s, everyone's favourite analyst in South Asia, just released a video where he predicted that Pakistan will Indeed be the aggressor in the next round

Now, I tried to play a little bit of devil's advocate on both sides, and I don't agree with everything you state, but in principle maybe it is the time for Pakistan to be more proactive than reactive.

The difference right now, is the heft and capability of China plus Pakistan can deter India in a true hybrid sense , unlike during kaegil

However ,you cannot play analog in the digital world, you cannot view conflict in the black and white TV, when it is being conducted in something like the metaverse, the unseen spectrums


On the point of water, you have to sensibly look at this in terms of population growth, climate change, and global warming. Comprehensive national security, actually takes this into account, going back to the old status quo is not even optimal, but of course is necessary
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I have seen Indian policy and I can smell danger. I know what they are trying to do.closing our eyes and playing disputed disputed territory etc will put us in a dangerous situation. I will go one step further and call ourselves fools if we still think that UN will come and solve Kashmir issue.

The world has move on. Nobody cares where india attacks or where Pakistan attacks. They all come forward when nuclear missiles comes out in the battle.

For our own survival, it’s time to be very aggressive. Declaring Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan and china will provide us an excuse to invade Indian Kashmir in the near future.

Kargil like operation is necessary and there is no need to give justification to the world. Absorb pressure just like india is absorbing pressure of not providing evidence before attack on pakistan etc.

Kargil is necessary. Destruction of Indian morals is necessary. Whole india is in attacking position where their keyboard warriors want india to capture parts of Pakistan. Calling Kashmir their own territory will give them excuse to invade our part of Kashmir which pakistani think tanks has failed to understand.

This is why I want pakistan to declare Kashmir an integral part of both china and pakistan. Chinese think tanks will read this move carefully and any territory that brings china and pakistan closer should be seen as a reward for china. China needs continuous trade and china also see America as enemy so pakistani coastal areas are vital for china as nearby Iran is not stable and are in fully Indian camp, supporting Indian terrorism in balochistan etc.

So yes, these 3 things are mandatory. 1) Preparing for one final war and tell china in advance about this situation and ask them whether they help or not etc as they are also part of the conflict( Kashmir an integral part of Pakistan and china)

2) Kashmir an integral part of china and pakistan, this will allow pakistan to invade Indian Kashmir with solid excuse as pakistan claims Kashmir to be an integral part of Pakistan and china.

3)Kargil. Caught enemy by its neck. Destroyed Indian government image in front of it people. Destroyed morals of Indian armed forces.
 
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Arsalan45 said:
have seen Indian policy and I can smell danger. I know what they are trying to do.closing our eyes and playing disputes disputed territory etc will put us in a dangerous situation. I will go one step further and call ourselves fools if we still think that UN will come and solve Kashmir issue.

The world has move on. Nobody cares where india attacks or where Pakistanis attacks. They all come forward when nuclear missiles comes out in the battle.

For our own survival, it’s time to be very aggressive. Declaring Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan and china will provide a part to invade Indian Kashmir in the near future.

Kargil like operation is necessary and there is no need to give justification to the world. Absurd pressure just like india is absorbing pressure of not providing evidence before attack on pakistan etc.

Kargil is necessary. Destruction of Indian morals is necessary. Whole india is in attacking position where their keyboard warriors want india to capture parts of Pakistan. Calling Kashmir their own territory will give them excuse to invade our part of Kashmir which pakistani think tanks has failed to understand.

This is why I want pakistan to declare Kashmir as integral part of both china and pakistan. Chinese think tanks will read this move carefully and any territory that brings china and pakistan closer should be seen as a reward for china. China needs continuous trade and china also see American as enemy so pakistani coastal areas are vital for china as nearby Iran is not stable and are in fully Indian camp, supporting Indian terrorism in balochistan etc.

So yes, these 3 things are mandatory. 1) Preparing for one final war and tell china in advance about this situation and ask them whether they help or not etc as they are also part of the conflict( Kashmir an integral part of Pakistan and china)

2) Kashmir an integral part of china and pakistan to allow pakistan to invade Indian Kashmir with solid excuse as pakistan claims Kashmir to be an integral part of Pakistan.

3)Kargil. Caught enemy by its neck. Destroyed Indian government image in front of it people. Destroyed morals of Indian armed forces.
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DG ISPR made an emotional plea yesterday to Afghans while hinting a Kashmir centric approach for the foreseeable future.
 
Arsalan45 said:
I have seen Indian policy and I can smell danger. I know what they are trying to do.closing our eyes and playing disputed disputed territory etc will put us in a dangerous situation. I will go one step further and call ourselves fools if we still think that UN will come and solve Kashmir issue.

The world has move on. Nobody cares where india attacks or where Pakistan attacks. They all come forward when nuclear missiles comes out in the battle.

For our own survival, it’s time to be very aggressive. Declaring Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan and china will provide us an excuse to invade Indian Kashmir in the near future.

Kargil like operation is necessary and there is no need to give justification to the world. Absorb pressure just like india is absorbing pressure of not providing evidence before attack on pakistan etc.

Kargil is necessary. Destruction of Indian morals is necessary. Whole india is in attacking position where their keyboard warriors want india to capture parts of Pakistan. Calling Kashmir their own territory will give them excuse to invade our part of Kashmir which pakistani think tanks has failed to understand.

This is why I want pakistan to declare Kashmir as integral part of both china and pakistan. Chinese think tanks will read this move carefully and any territory that brings china and pakistan closer should be seen as a reward for china. China needs continuous trade and china also see American as enemy so pakistani coastal areas are vital for china as nearby Iran is not stable and are in fully Indian camp, supporting Indian terrorism in balochistan etc.

So yes, these 3 things are mandatory. 1) Preparing for one final war and tell china in advance about this situation and ask them whether they help or not etc as they are also part of the conflict( Kashmir an integral part of Pakistan and china)

2) Kashmir an integral part of china and pakistan to allow pakistan to invade Indian Kashmir with solid excuse as pakistan claims Kashmir to be an integral part of Pakistan.

3)Kargil. Caught enemy by its neck. Destroyed Indian government image in front of it people. Destroyed morals of Indian armed forces.
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Agreed. The rules based order is dead and buried. Everyone NEEDS to fight for their own interests and survival. Pakistan needs to do what is in it's best interests and not give a damn what the rest of the world says or thinks. A lot of good that did for the Palestinians in Gaza.
 
Guynextdoor said:
Not accurate. The rport is that
1) IAF used Laksya-PTA and Banshee to simulate signatures of bigger aircraft (Rafale etc,)
2) PAF shot at them thinking they were the real thing and assumed they had been shot when the missiles did hit them
3) After this volley the Rafale quickly moved in, lined up and released the bombs

No publication was given a view of this tactic until the war was 'over'. The wire and hindu removed their articles after being given confidential briefings.
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This is why hindus especially and indians in general are never to believed the levels of mendacious and duplicitous forked tongue speak means they should never to believed.

Kuch sharam karo, you would be afforded more dignity and honour as a worthy adversary than to come out with this childlike petulance……

When this lie is also exposed, what are you going to say it wasnt rafael it was your cousins birthday and some baloons that were released and got hit and PAF mistakenly thought they were Rafaels?

For the love of god, give it up, victories and defeats are part of the game, have some shame
 
Even the sane Indians here, are towing their government line that stopping or diverting water unilaterally is fair game. This is the level of terrorism these folks are resorting to.

Question is, for Pakistan, stopping short of war, does it have any options to keep stranglehold on India? Similar to denying Indian flights airspace over Pakistan.
 
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Olympus81 said:
Even the sane Indians here, are towing their government line that stopping or diverting water unilaterally is fair game. This is the level of terrorism our these folks are resorting to.

Question is, for Pakistan, stopping short of war, does it have any options to keep stranglehold on India? Similar to denying Indian flights airspace over Pakistan.
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Explore all diplomatic means first, if that fails then we need to go to war with india. There is no other choice as our survival will be under threat. Either way, we will have to fight the indians to the death.
 
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