Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[TAC]

It was written on picture I didn’t say anything

Damage to runway can repaired, how about your 6 jets including pride of the IAF, Ra-fail, which are at the scrapyard, can you repair them?

 

[Arsalan45]

Exactly what i've been thinking. Our military and political leadership missed a golden chance. At the very minimum they should've destroyed all the dams india built on ALL OUR RIVERS. Should've let the water flow to Pak freely.
Eventhough the PAF and PA ended up winning and celebrating, but we all know its not over.

India literally announced that they will shut/hold our water and make Pakistan extinct. Nobody in the world, including the WB or UN, or anyone gave a shit about what they said and will do. Our rives are already dried up mostly, our Tarbela and Mangla dams reaching dead levels and shortage of clean/safe drinking water in many cities is a BIG problem nobody seems to be caring about. Because all of the "elites" have their mineral waters available so they dont care.
I know from relatives in punjab that water issue is becoming a big problem even in areas which never used to have problems before. But our leaders are busy in political bickering in talk shows between pti, ppp and pmln. Priorities are messed up
We showed "restraints" and "dont want to escalate" and now they(india) know that our side is always about restraint and not escalating. But they when come next time, won't be restraint and will use their full might to cause us max damage and chaos/destruction. And trust me, not many countries will care other than virtue signalling or they may try to SELL US their weapons and drones instead.

There can really be no "restraints" next time. But the water/dams issue is highly important and if our people just sit around for 10 yrs without any action, then Pakistan will be dry. Missed a golden opportunity when our JF17 and J10C had clear area to strike all their dams and restore ALL OUR RIVERS but they did not go for it. Now they(enemy) will build on the remaining rivers and they know nobody will give a shit about it other than issuing some statements. Is the World Bank going to personally come and stop the work and remove any constructed barriers ??
We missed opportunity and now we will again wait for their strikes once again, they will again launch war on us because we did not cripple them at all, they're still running on full throttle (their economy, their business, their hubs and their propaganda campaigns). Our being reactive is going to cost us dearly.
Nobody tells india to show restraint, such calls are only fielded by our own Pakistani decision-makers, they all come tell us only. They let india do whatever the **** it wants, everytime. This infuriates me each time they do this and get away with it.

This is lack of aggressive policy. We weren’t used to be this defensive. I don’t know what happened to us. The mosque attack is still in my mind. How freely they attacked us and in return, there is not one place where we hit their population. Reason is we are responsible country and we show restraint. It’s actually funny. It either shows that you are fearful or you probably don’t have the capability. Have you seen Russian strikes on ukraine yesterday? I feel sorry for people who died but that was some show. Thing is without damage to Indian population, india has been given license to kill. Same is repeated by Modi today that they might attack pakistani population next time.

Insurgency has weaken us. We lost many soldiers due to bla and ttp attacks. Our top leadership is in Iran like they are friends. It’s lack of awareness and a dull mindset. Thing is no matter what we do, attacks will not stop. We think Iran is friend. We know what irgc is doing behind the scenes. Same with taliban as well and same with india.

All those 3 things that I mentioned earlier in my posts needs to be implemented otherwise it will be too late. A prime minister of a country openly threatening Pakistani civilians.

I am expecting Paf to strike Indian army and Indian airforce bases next time. I want same mosque like scenes. I feel sorry for the people who died. Our response and everything we did after that wasn’t enough.

Silence on water issue is predictable. Same defensive mindset. India is happy. They know what they are doing. I don’t think that stand-off weapons will destroy such structures on dam completely so it’s hard.

 

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[rishi7887]

Thats a bit hard to believe when the entire indian media, its politicians, its retired and active military personnel and even the common people interviewed , as well as those on Social Media are saying the same thing, they want war and destruction of Pakistan and Pakistanis. So its actually in full swing for their plan of "akhand bharat" via operation sindoor, which obviously, is still ongoing.

Perhaps the small minority which doesnt want hindutva extremist ideology is more like 1-2%. Rest of them are all longing for a big war and want to see cities and people of Pak blown up like Gaza and Syria, etc.....they love the BJP/RSS for any conflicts with Pakistan. They won't even tolerate any muslims within india for that matter, their own "3rd class citizens".

Therefore its hard to believe, because its pretty obvious.

I have to disagree with you on many fronts. India is not a homogeneous country. BJP/RSS have no presence in southern states. It has a lot to do with socio economics. Eg Among large states, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh are relatively prosperous with higher HDI. Consequently, BJP has struggled there. The Hindi heartland states which have bad HDI numbers are where BJP/RSS gets traction. Within India these are called BiMaRU states named after Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh. BJP/RSS does not do well in states where people have better quality of education and consequently less likely to fall for false propaganda that the BJP spreads through its massive social media network and News channels. I can write a whole essay on how BJP weaponized central investigative agencies (ED and CBI) to threaten news agencies and make them tow their narrative. Indian media today can give North Korea a run for its money.

Another point which you'll find funny is that BJP/RSS' own hard core Hindutva followers don't want Akhand Bharat since that would involve absorbing a large Muslim population and these guys are hard core Islamophobes

 

[Oscar]

News coming out Indians will negotiate for F-35 soon. Wonder if it's true and what strategic implications it holds for PAF

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Apparently certain Indian boards are claiming even the money has been transferred over so the deal is being fast tracked. This could just be a signing ceremony.
If that is the case then Pakistan has some serious work cut out for it.

 

[arjunk]

The Rafale pilot who crashed in Bhatinda, had died on the spot.
Wait for another news from India that an IAF got killed while hanging on a train or slipped on a banana

Note that this Rafale pilot had texted his wife he was going to 'teach the pak1s a lesson' - referring to his misssion to kill Pakistani children

Those were the coward's last words before being turned into fresh mince-meat by the fragments of a PL-15. Like Mata, like son...

 

[Jango007]

Apparently certain Indian boards are claiming even the money has been transferred over so the deal is being fast tracked. This could just be a signing ceremony.
If that is the case then Pakistan has some serious work cut out for it.

There is no way in hell Indians will get F35 anytime soon....Imagine they just destroyed the second best of Wstern aviation without aircraft having fired back at the enemy and now we are expecting them to give their finest F35 to India to destroy that as well???

Even Saudis after handing away $500B are not getting F -35......what is the value to India to America?

Few lousy billion dollars and that comes with a great possibility that they will destroy that aircraft in no time at all.


Also practically with ZERO technology or codes sharing Indians will not be able to hang their few systems that they insist on adding to make product "Indian"

and the biggest beast of all is S400 and other Russian hardware in use.......They kicked Turkey out of the program for operating S400.

Before Trump, Modi Can Agree on India Buying F-35s, the US Needs to Shed its S-400 Phobia

The solution to the predicament of F-35’s operating alongside S-400s for now, remains elusive.

thewire.in

 

[Brahmos]

This is lack of aggressive policy. We weren’t used to be this defensive. I don’t know what happened to us. The mosque attack is still in my mind. How freely they attacked us and in return, there is not one place where we hit their population. Reason is we are responsible country and we show restraint. It’s actually funny. It either shows that you are fearful or you probably don’t have the capability. Have you seen Russian strikes on ukraine yesterday? I feel sorry for people who died but that was some show. Thing is without damage to Indian population, india has been given license to kill. Same is repeated by Modi today that they might attack pakistani population next time.

Insurgency has weaken us. We lost many soldiers due to bla and ttp attacks. Our top leadership is in Iran like they are friends. It’s lack of awareness and a dull mindset. Thing is no matter what we do, attacks will not stop. We think Iran is friend. We know what irgc is doing behind the scenes. Same with taliban as well and same with india.

All those 3 things that I mentioned earlier in my posts needs to be implemented otherwise it will be too late. A prime minister of a country openly threatening Pakistani civilians.

I am expecting Paf to strike Indian army and Indian airforce bases next time. I want same mosque like scenes. I feel sorry for the people who died. Our response and everything we did after that wasn’t enough.

Silence on water issue is predictable. Same defensive mindset. India is happy. They know what they are doing. I don’t think that stand-off weapons will destroy such structures on dam completely so it’s hard.

Pahalgam incident was an act of war, and India’s response to Pakistan will serve as a deterrent,
Mark my words—no incident like Pahalgam will occur for at least the next 10 years.

 

[Abdul q]

There is no way in hell Indians will get F35 anytime soon....Imagine they just destroyed the second best of Wstern aviation without aircraft having fired back at the enemy and now we are expecting them to give their finest F35 to India to destroy that as well???

Even Saudis after handing away $500B are not getting F -35......what is the value to India to America?

Few lousy billion dollars and that comes with a great possibility that they will destroy that aircraft in no time at all.


Also practically with ZERO technology or codes sharing Indians will not be able to hang their few systems that they insist on adding to make product "Indian"

and the biggest beast of all is S400 and other Russian hardware in use.......They kicked Turkey out of the program for operating S400.

Before Trump, Modi Can Agree on India Buying F-35s, the US Needs to Shed its S-400 Phobia

The solution to the predicament of F-35’s operating alongside S-400s for now, remains elusive.

thewire.in

Funny how Su-30Mki of Asia
To the lemon powered Raptor killer Rafale all theories were debunked

 

[Oscar]

There is no way in hell Indians will get F35 anytime soon....Imagine they just destroyed the second best of Wstern aviation without aircraft having fired back at the enemy and now we are expecting them to give their finest F35 to India to destroy that as well???

Even Saudis after handing away $500B are not getting F -35......what is the value to India to America?

Few lousy billion dollars and that comes with a great possibility that they will destroy that aircraft in no time at all.


Also practically with ZERO technology or codes sharing Indians will not be able to hang their few systems that they insist on adding to make product "Indian"

and the biggest beast of all is S400 and other Russian hardware in use.......They kicked Turkey out of the program for operating S400.

Before Trump, Modi Can Agree on India Buying F-35s, the US Needs to Shed its S-400 Phobia

The solution to the predicament of F-35’s operating alongside S-400s for now, remains elusive.

thewire.in

You would be surprised - the issue isnt getting them F-35s - it's them agreeing to other aspects of the aircraft and not getting the ability to integrate anything of their own in there.

A desperate enemy will do anything and Modi & Co can easily overrule the IAF decision makers now that they have them groveling after the fiasco of May 7th.

 

[ziaulislam]

Apparently certain Indian boards are claiming even the money has been transferred over so the deal is being fast tracked. This could just be a signing ceremony.
If that is the case then Pakistan has some serious work cut out for it.

Donald Trump will sell anything.. question is how much of the f35 would be baked into these f35s

 

[ziaulislam]

You would be surprised - the issue isnt getting them F-35s - it's them agreeing to other aspects of the aircraft and not getting the ability to integrate anything of their own in there.

A desperate enemy will do anything and Modi & Co can easily overrule the IAF decision makers now that they have them groveling after the fiasco of May 7th.

India will go for fifty gen platform and only option is f35

 

[Brahmos]

I have to disagree with you on many fronts. India is not a homogeneous country. BJP/RSS have no presence in southern states. It has a lot to do with socio economics. Eg Among large states, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh are relatively prosperous with higher HDI. Consequently, BJP has struggled there. The Hindi heartland states which have bad HDI numbers are where BJP/RSS gets traction. Within India these are called BiMaRU states named after Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh. BJP/RSS does not do well in states where people have better quality of education and consequently less likely to fall for false propaganda that the BJP spreads through its massive social media network and News channels. I can write a whole essay on how BJP weaponized central investigative agencies (ED and CBI) to threaten news agencies and make them tow their narrative. Indian media today can give North Korea a run for its money.

Another point which you'll find funny is that BJP/RSS' own hard core Hindutva followers don't want Akhand Bharat since that would involve absorbing a large Muslim population and these guys are hard core Islamophobes

I don’t think anyone in India had a second opinion regarding Pakistan after what happened in Pahalgam. Anyone in the central government would have taken the same action as Mr. Narendra Modi did.