Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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nang2 said:
It takes a lot less time to battle harden troops than to build very good manufactured stuff.
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Fair enough. But American Military is still very strong. I see China emerging as another Soviet Union Counterpart to the USA.

Russia has declined quite alot. they barely managed to capture 20% of Ukraine land in 3 years.
 
Ali_Baba said:
A strange incident indeed - and one that I am sure Iran will never repeat again. Pakistan has moved on from that event, as indicated by the recent trip of the "entire" current leadership team who visited Iran at the same time. Iran wants to pretend it did not happen either.

I think both have made the best and most wise decision on that front to forget it entirely as an aberration , and see how to move forward together collaboratively.
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Iran is snake…they support raw network inside sistan province and BLA from there… kulbhoshan was an example.. then they resorted to play alongside endia to strike on us only to get pounded up their a*** by PAF….
Now they’re acting nice because they have pissrael to deal with and might need our support… let them deal with their troubles. Let endia help them in their crisis
 
Abdul q said:
Iran is snake…they support raw network inside sistan province and BLA from there… kulbhoshan was an example.. then they resorted to play alongside endia to strike on us only to get pounded up their a*** by PAF….
Now they’re acting nice because they have pissrael to deal with and might need our support… let them deal with their troubles. Let endia help them in their crisis
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Iran was quite foolish to pick a fight with the Israelis, but no way they dont have nukes like israel does. They definitely developed them.
 
Jango007 said:
Indians have moved their Rafael all the way to Bangladesh ....Now if the opertaion Suhagraat is ongoing then why would you move your best fighters so far away from the front?
Perhaps something to worry about for Indians?
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Safer there.. they can only contest against decades old migs… not allowed to fly close to Pakistan airspace
 
Abdul q said:
Safer there.. they can only contest against decades old migs… not allowed to fly close to Pakistan airspace
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i hear indians had to move their assets from border this week. So this could be part of the plan.
 
speedgame349 said:
Fair enough. But American Military is still very strong. I see China emerging as another Soviet Union Counterpart to the USA.

Russia has declined quite alot. they barely managed to capture 20% of Ukraine land in 3 years.
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Capturing 20% of Ukraine by Russia in 3 years is already a great achievement. Russia is not just facing Ukraine. It is facing the entire western world. It has managed to gradually gnaw away Ukraine piece by piece without paying too much a cost.
 
Vkdindian1 said:
But I have also said that Indian strikes over Paksiatn were extremely successful and there were glaring holes in your AD.
They have been proven beyond doubt through excellent battle damage assessment.
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Yes, there were holes in our AD. No AD in the world can ever guarantee 100% foolproof security against high tech missiles. We'd be very happy to have known the performance of our air defence systems against your primary weapons of choice. We will definitely endeavor to improve our AD systems to achieve higher interception rate. Even at the present, the performance of our AD systems was not bad. You might not know but let me tell you. You guys launched 3-5 missiles on each of our air bases. Only one or two managed to make it through against each base. You targeted Rafiqui and Masroor as well. None of missiles could hit these two bases.

Nevertheless, sadly for your military, your "successful" didn't achieve much on ground except for minor infrastructure damage except for Bholari. Yes, it exposed the room for improvement in our AD. Thank you for that. We'll do something about it. You thought you would be invincible with Rafale and S400. We all saw how that went for you. Now you think you are invincible with BrahMos and SCALPs. We'll see how that goes for you next time.


Vkdindian1 said:
Apart from shooting down IAF aircraft, there is nothing great to write about from Pakistan’s perspective. Apart from unverifiable videos there is no credible proof of any success in Paksiatn’s attack on Indian military infrastructure.
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I'd still be very mad about losing 6 high tech aircrafts including the very best and pride of my fleet. It shatters the whole confidence and pride of whole squadron. A black spot to remain forever for all the crew members. In return for being successful in doing infrastructure damage on other side. (While also receving the "limited" damage on your military installations as your spokeswoman said in MEA briefing)

The fake and doctored videos you're referring to aren't entirely fake. Some of them are true for sure. Else please enlighten us how all of them qualify as fake. The "limited" damage as your spokeswoman said, might be lesser than what's seen on our airbases. But definitely, not "limited" to be ignored.

I really think we should not have stuck to using only the Fatah system. We should have launched our better arsenal of weapons. Cruise missiles against cruise missiles. Then we'd have seen the real performance of your AD. But then, for another reason im happy we didn't use our cruise arsenal. We have seen your best choices while you only saw our basic options.
 
speedgame349 said:
But it is clear our AD is not up to par. We need to stock up on alot of equipment from china. HQ-19 is a step in the right direction. Hope we get even more equipment to protect airbases.
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With India's deep pockets, they can buy a lot of missiles and air defense systems. With Pakistan's limited economy, with Pakistan's narrow geography, with Pakistan's proximity to India, it will be extremely difficult to counter a barrage of sophisticated missiles from India. Even the Houthis and the Iranians, with several hundred miles distance from Israel, have been able to penetrate the Israel + NATO (and sometimes Arab!) air defense systems.

I think the best option for Pakistan is to massively deploy its own missiles dispersed over Pakistan, perhaps on mobile launchers, to target major Indian cities: Delhi is not far, Ahmadabad is not far. That kind of deterrence works for North Korea which can bulldoze Seoul. Should work for Pakistan too.
 
speedgame349 said:
Iran was quite foolish to pick a fight with the Israelis, but no way they dont have nukes like israel does. They definitely developed them.
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Iran is not foolish. They show the world their guts when the rest of the Muslim world chickens out. And, they certainly don't have nukes because nukes are useless when you don't show people you have them. Unfortunately, they still crave to join the western world. That is why they never push nuke development through. IMHO, that is their biggest weakness.
 
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