Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[PakistaniDefender]

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Rafaele deal may be canelled and f35C will be purchased (it seems!)

Isn't Rafale M deal finalised?

 

[PakFactor]

They are coping saying "So What we achieved every objective" I mean if you think bombing mosques and killing children is an objective. Well i dont know what to tell ya.

On top of that we probably shot way more then 6 i am sure.

@Oscar has a point, the Indians, regardless of losing planes, are building a narrative and setting the tone for the next round of confrontation. While they secure relations with global players, we are traveling around Central Asia, visiting insignificant countries that have little influence. More importantly, as he pointed out, the Gulf [GCC] is missing in this picture.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

IT is not a stand alone system and integration would be a bihh when you have S400 and Russian assets that make up 70% of your hardware. We'll see !

Will US give F35 to India considering they operate Russian S400?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Isn't Rafale M deal finalised?

payments pending, afaik

 

[Oscar]

They are coping saying "So What we achieved every objective" I mean if you think bombing mosques and killing children is an objective. Well i dont know what to tell ya.

On top of that we probably shot way more then 6 i am sure.

Their cope is irrelevant and downplaying their internal delusion is folly. They can rearm to whatever capabilities they want while you’re hoping for crypto bros to bail you out.

Doesn’t matter how many you shot down - it’s them being able to make it through your AD with saturation (which was expected) but you not being able to show that you could scratch them too.

Because what’s going to happen is that they can sell a follow up war internally - no problem because the Bhaktoras are brainwashed into genocide in India at this point but it also weakens your allies perception on when India attacks next and they will attack - you are still celebrating what could be partially successful tactics and they’ve already learned what they needed to.

This entire narrative is being pushed
I see it everywhere on every feed

India hit terror targets and put Pakistan in its place
India will not stop here to prevent spread of terrorism worldwide
Pakistan COAS is a religious extremist and nuclear weapons will end up in terrorists hands

Etc etc

 

[speedgame349]

Isn't Rafale M deal finalised?

I dont get it. Why would USA Sell india F-35 after seeing how many times they were outclassed. That would ruin its whole reputation. Also they only sell F-35 to NATO countries correct?

 

[speedgame349]

I think the more realistic outcome is that India gets Sukhoi 57. Not a F-35. AMCA might take a long time to make

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I think the more realistic outcome is that India gets Sukhoi 57. Not a F-35. AMCA might take a long time to make

no quad then

 

[Be dazzled]

Will US give F35 to India considering they operate Russian S400?

LM will plead Trump not to. Pentagon has.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

LM will plead Trump not to. Pentagon has.

But doesn't LM wants more sales?

 

[ghazi52]

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[Abid123]

Need to increase support for Kashmiri insurgents.

 

[TAC]

Perhaps France can also try to tell everyone that it’s all ok, cos IAF ‘dominated’ after getting its ass whooped on the first night’dominated’ but didn’t actually shoot anything down….

Rafale Downfall? France Presses India for Truth After Alleged Pakistani Shootdowns - Defence Security Asia

For the first time since reports emerged of Rafale losses in the latest Pakistan-India aerial confrontation, France has publicly acknowledged that it is in close contact with New Delhi to determine the fate of the Indian Air Force’s prized multirole fighters.

defencesecurityasia.com

 

[Be dazzled]

But doesn't LM wants more sales?

They don't want to be another Dassault.

 

[Sal12]

There are videos in social media now where Pak's FATAH, missiles, ammunition did indeed hit Indian land. Most of these videos are recorded from CCTVs and mobile cameras by locals.

Understandably these videos are recorded from distance but still they are not proof that they hit the intended targets i.e., airbases, military installations or caused any damage.

Satellite images can be good proofs but so far we have seen none and this only indicates that Pak strikes caused minimal to no damage to Indian military installations. DG ISPR also knows this reality otherwise he would have got the satellite images by now and/or he would not have relied on Indian media or Indian military presser as a proof that Pak caused damages to Indian airbases.

Here in Pak, public is happy by seeing FATAHs being fired towards India but really don't care whether they hit the targets or not.

There is also no proof that Indian air defences successfully intercepted FATAH. So most probably FATAH avoided Indian air defences but missed their targets.

Compared to Pak air defences, Indian air defences still performed better because everyone has seen the satellite images of damages to Pak air bases in terms of runways and destroyed hangars and this is really embarrassing.