Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[speedgame349]

Yes it is delusional. Indian military works completely under civil leadership.

Sigh.... i wish ours did the same aswell

 

[Vox Non Dei]

indian strike was a missed shot ...Pakistan air force again showed that the target was locked and it was forced to hit a different point.

clear?

False.
Most targets in Pakistan were hit hard. Seminaries on 6th night and bases on 9th night / 10th morning.

India lost multiple jets.

Thats what is clear.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Dictator deserves it.

While i dont like Rahul Gandhi, solving the Kashmir issue under leadership of Congress is much easier then the Hindutvas at BJP

I dare to differ.

No one in India will solve Kashmir issue (as we wish to). Please note and understand the following:

In Indian mythology, "Bharat desh" is a "deyvta".
This "deyvta" has a head, a body and the arms.
Kashmir is the head of this "deyvta".

This is the reason BJP has the slogan to take back "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir" (because half the head of "deyvta" is not with them).

Anyone who compromises it will be lynched.

 

[NA71]

He surely has a point tbh. We could have done a bit better in defending our airbases.


But AVM aurangzeb mentioned they were sending 100s of missiles towards our bases. So if we do the math atleast 85% of them were jammed, shot or overshot

balakot 2019 ki baat ho rahi hy

 

[Waz]

Good post from someone who works for a major defence firm, specialist in avionics.

China today is VERY different to Russia in the early 90s. I would hesitate to draw parallels. Most of the issues that affected 1990s Russian avionics producers are missing. China has money, excellent production facilities, and an avalanche of basic research going on. Its likely lacking mainly in having limited real-world experience and lacking some institutional knowledge compared to some of its Western peers. Some of the ECCM techniques used on CAPTOR (ILIC, Anderwave) were proprietary to Ferranti from earlier radars for example, but you'd have to be pretty short-sighted to think Chinese scientists and engineers are incapable of developing similar or better algorithms 30 years later.

 

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[speedgame349]

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Its actually crazy how OP our Air force will be when we get the HQ-19B from china. Would have to worry less about missiles hitting.


I think Air Chief deserved field marshal rank.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

While intelligence is getting artificial but the stupidity and ingnorance of indians will always remain orignal

 

[speedgame349]

balakot 2019 ki baat ho rahi hy

oh my mistake

 

[speedgame349]

False.
Most targets in Pakistan were hit hard. Seminaries on 6th night and bases on 9th night / 10th morning.

India lost multiple jets.

Thats what is clear.

Except Bholari all of the damage to our airbases were minor


But we must improve our AD for sure.

 

[speedgame349]

I think we couldve inflicted even further damage if we acted and made plans just when we got the intellgence warning.


As soon as India hits our Seminaries we quickly start missile retaliation and jets. "


Wouldve ensured in early retaliation and a more decisive victory.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

This is false. IAF chief had made some very public statement about HAL and its inability to deliver on camera earlier in the past as well. He has always been very dissatisfied with Indian industry inability to meet the agreed and signed contracts. Nothing new.

Emergency purchase route and money approved is a direct consequence of this.

You are trying to twist what I said and what the facts are in the context of IAF and CDS Chiefs statements.

IAF Chief was critical twice, once before 22nd April and then about 48-hours ago.
HAL is a (Indian) Government owned organization (there is a talk of privatizing it). Indian Defense Minister is the boss of HAL.
Criticism of HAL is the criticism of Indian Govt. (you cannot expect IAF Chief to directly criticize Modi with name).

 

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[Dil Pakistan]

Except Bholari all of the damage to our airbases were minor


But we must improve our AD for sure.

Bholari was because ceasefire had already happened and accepted by both sides.
We took it fore-granted that Indians will behave as descent and professional do.
Clearly we were wrong.

 

[PK781]

If India shows bases etc then Pakistan and Pakistani will say "Why is India showing the bases? This is the evidence there must be some major damage and this is a lousy PR attempt to hide it". Remember when S-400 was present in the background of Modi's pictures everyone here was talking about its radars and mere presence of S-400 as a propaganda piece and evidence of destruction of S-400.

So, no, its futile to even attempt convincing Pakistanis for lack of damage in Indian military installations.

This is especially true now because now the claim from Pakistan will be that there was damage and India has repaired it and thats why these pictures / videos are being released.

One can not please one's enemy. And its only Pakistan that is claiming major damage to bases and AD system like S-400. Rest of the world does not care or has seen satellite images taken by likes of Maxxor. NY Times and WaPo has already written enough. Even likes of Stimson Center, which are usually anti India have written pieces admitting that no significant damage has been seen in Indian bases.

So whom India will try to convince? Pakistan? That is NEVER going to happen, no matter how much evidence India will give.

I mean this is Balakot all over again. Only roles have been reversed. Pakistan did not give access to Balakot sites to anyone for long time and Indians were weaving all sort of yarn while satellite evidence has shown that none of those sites were hit. Only this time it is pakistani weaving all sorts of yarn about hits on Indian bases.

The truth always comes out later (how much time it takes is yet to be decided) but it never remains hidden. Eventually it comes out.
Both sides sort of know how much damage they caused on the other side. Its always the media mostly that exaggerates *godi media specially.
Now the focus has shifted gradually due to ceasefire but we all know that this isn't over and at some point BJP/RSS will attempt again (seek revenge).