Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

ghazi52 said:
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The clown is doubling down at 0:28, literally saying "losses are not important". What's more, the zombies in the audience applauded this statement.

I have said unequivocally to Indian guests on this very thread once before and it clearly needs to be reiterated: your nation's losses are important because someone somewhere wearing your flag on their lapel just laid their life down for you.

This is a shocking scene. Someone just today argued that India cares about psychological trauma/perceptions of failure more than tangible losses, which I wholly agree with. This Chauhan drama boxset is proving that to be the case.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
Im not a PTI supporter, I'm not a huge sports fan.
I have never liked IK (as a political leader), can I ask his fan boys, how come he missed the trick on CPEC?

2. why his all the finance ministers etc back stabbed him?

IMHO, he has caused more damage than any body else..

to me, he was CIA agent (sorry to be blunt, but he was working to alienate pak with china).

his ego is too big, 2 years are enough to make any impact besides he has had power in one provine for over 10 years, what exactly has he delivered?

again sorry, Im not a PML N supporter, my whole family supports pti, but i dont, i have nvr voted for him, nor ever will
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Im not a PTI supporter either, and i dont subscribe to imrans politics…..but lets call a spade a spade…..the establishment and the 2 mafia parties especially have royally fvcked this country with their corruption and their nepotism and a cancerous society that has stifled progression…….lets not beat around the bush here. The Imran story was created in a vacuum left by the ruling dynasties.

Long before Imran whether it was Ayub, zia or musharraf, the bhuttos or sharifs they all had one thing that was standardised and that was the lust for the kursi……they all had one thing in common and that was they viewed themselves as the solution of all the problems.

So while everyone is getting giddy at recent successes due largely to PAF and chinese support lets not get ahead of ourselves….

There needs to be some form of national reconcilliation, wipe the slate clean, form a unity govt and then let the people decide. Whether ppl can leave their egos to one side remains to be seen
 
AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
Dr Shabaz Gill
He received his early education at government schools in Punjab. He earned a PhD in Leadership and Management from the University of Malaya, Malaysia, in 2007. In 2011, he completed postdoctoral research in the same field at the University of Illinois

Dr Shabaz Gills is a very intellectual man with a political view point
He teaches in American University based on his knowledge and deep views in matter related to Leadership

Was not born with a golden spoon
Nor he had acres and acres of framland from pre partition era
No wirasat wali Zameen , 10,000 acres with no agricultural tax

Why would he be considered a "Clown" or Chootiya ? Just because he is addressing Citizen of America , in congress or Senetors ?

Every Pakistani person on planet knows , 11 Seat winner are pretending to be election winner


Judicial system in Pakistan has failed - Yes
Elections system has failed - Yes
Political Imprisonment - Yes
There is a failure in trust on Judicial System - Yes
Is there stagnation in Pakistan political circle - Astounding Yes


These are realities everyone must accept


The issue is not Bilawal's pretty English or his mannerism with all due respect appreciate his point of view
  • Fine you have lovely english and communication skill in English, much respect

The issue is he is not elected by the People in Pakistan
That is the fundamental issue with Bilawal


Most Pakistani feel , if Bilawal can of course participate in Election and win election legitimately of course I am sure people of Pakistan will respect his point of view


The issue is really , we don't think 12 seat government is representing Pakistani people
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total respect, appreciate your input. lets just focus on this thread. He has all the time to show leadership in Usa to sway indian opinion... I'd say let the time decide..
 
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This genius is asking India to leave Pakistan alone, just manage it from distance. China and India should work tightly to manage Pakistan, what do these people smoke?

In reality Pakistan will always contain India. India will always be reminded of its auqaat by Pakistan before it become delusional of becoming some great power. Like it just happened last month. And Pakistan nukes makes sure of that for eternity.

China and even west/USA will make sure of that.

To become superpower you should have accepted Jinnah cabinet plan in 1946. You people are pathetic fighters and no one will take your superpower status seriously.
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The haughtiness in that article among the reasons India attacked Pakistan, expecting an easy win and a confidant declaration to the world of India as the new regional manager of Asia and the China challenger. The Indian defeat is really grinding on their psyche and its absolutely delicious!

The takeaway for me from this war is that Indians will never attack a united, respected, economically and militarily strong Pakistan. But they will attack a Pakistan that is just strong in military. Our leadership needs to wake up and move away from WW2 thinking of just number of tanks and fighter aircraft.
 
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Modi is Temu version of Netanyahu lmao
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He sounds like chutiya kid in fifth standard of the cambridge system he came out of....
 
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