Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Pakistan can.....but won't.....couldn't or wouldn't ?.......Restraint ?

If Pakistan's brothers are stopping it from reacting and forcing / stressing to just get bullied all the time / every time, then what is stopping Pakistan from standing on it's feet ?

Except the Oil / natural resources rich countries,
Even China, without a democracy, has civilians at the top, leading the country.

Without a strong economy, strings will alway be pulled by someone, whether it's the western nations, your Muslim ummah / brothers, or could be your all time ally ?

You never know what the future holds for you.

The more Restraint you show, the more certain it is that bigger adversary will come back sooner and more harder to restore its injured reputation / ego.

Respecting the rules based global order has favoured Pakistan ?

Common thing between our adversary and rogue militant groups is that, all of them try to attack on important religious days / Eid / Ramzan days of Muslims, when the Muslims least expect an attack.

How much more important is Simla Agreement?

An Agreement that you signed so that the larger adversary always bullies you into submission and run you dry,.... eventually ?

As the rules based order is changing globally, such treaties hold little value, specially when the world is more focused on Russia- Ukraine war, the upcoming China - Taiwan episode in 2027 and if our western neighbouring muslim countries fall, Pakistan is next ?

So what are we waiting for ?
Always a reactionary force attack / retaliate ?
Or
will we be doing ourselves a favour, enter the disputed territories and once and for all, take control of our sources of water, on the ground physically ?

Did 200 km + Air superiority secure our water resources / rivers ?

The sooner the better, the technological edge is not going to last long as our adversaries 10 times more deep pockets, will surely fill the gaps, sooner than later.

If Muslims, who have a history of not getting along and fight wars with each other in the last 1400 years , don't expect your non- Muslim adversary to respect you or your treaties, that too without a third party / umpire. It's a piece of paper after all.

If you know that the bigger enemy is going to strike first and strike again and repeat this, tactics again amd again, then you know what you must do ?

Act First / Strike First !
 
Leave Indo-Pak, enjoy this shit instead!

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Something we can agree on.
Looks like the PAF will have its hands always full with Rafales as more are on the way for:

Rafale Fighter Jet Fuselage to Be Made in India | Vantage with Palki Sharma | N18G​

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This is very concerning. They will saturate the airspace with PL-15 interceptors...
 
Pakistan can.....but won't.....couldn't or wouldn't ?.......Restraint ?

If Pakistan's brothers are stopping it from reacting and forcing / stressing to just get bullied all the time / every time, then what is stopping Pakistan from standing on it's feet ?

Except the Oil / natural resources rich countries,
Even China, without a democracy, has civilians at the top, leading the country.

Without a strong economy, strings will alway be pulled by someone, whether it's the western nations, your Muslim ummah / brothers, or could be your all time ally ?

You never know what the future holds for you.

The more Restraint you show, the more certain it is that bigger adversary will come back sooner and more harder to restore its injured reputation / ego.

Respecting the rules based global order has favoured Pakistan ?

Common thing between our adversary and rogue militant groups is that, all of them try to attack on important religious days / Eid / Ramzan days of Muslims, when the Muslims least expect an attack.

How much important is Simla Agreement?

An Agreement that you signed so that the larger adversary always bullies you into submission and run you dry,.... eventually ?

As the rules based order is changing globally, such treaties hold little value, specially when the world is more focused on Russia- Ukraine war, the upcoming China - Taiwan episode in 2027 and if our eastern neighbouring muslim countries fall, Pakistan is next ?

So what are we waiting for ?
Always a reactionary force attack / retaliate ?
Or
will we be doing ourselves a favour, enter the disputed territories and once and for all, take control of our sources of water, on the ground physically ?

Did 200 km + Air superiority secure our water resources / rivers ?

The sooner the better, the technological edge is not going to last long as our adversaries 10 times more deep pockets, will surely fill the gaps, sooner than later.

If Muslims, who have a history of not getting along and fight wars with each other in the last 1400 years , don't expect your non- Muslim adversary to respect you or your treaties, that too without a third party / umpire. It's a piece of paper after all.

If you know that the bigger enemy is going to strike first and strike again and repeat this, tactics again amd again, then you know what you must do ?

Act First / Strike First !
I think if they strike us again. this is a message and we must enter IOK and take it. Army showed progress even on 7th taking posts.
 

After Trump-Putin call, Kremlin backs claim White House brokered India-Pakistan ‘ceasefire’​


@Meengla

Looks like world powers have decided they had enough of India wishwaguru/superpower delusions. Now Putin is also rubbing on Modi liar face. Pakistan was activated to show India their auqaat Lmao

The world has certainly given a cold shoulder to India and even Indians are saying only Israel and Taiwan gave some kind of robust diplomatic support to India. And it is so embarrassing for India that Russia has not given good support.
 
GODZILLA IS DOWN! India-Pakistan Clash and Chinese Military Technology with TP Huang — #87

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Godzilla went from endangered to fully extinct…. 😂😂😂
 
Hopefully our Thunders and Dragons and Frigates are armed and ready even on Eid.
Though I feel a bit sad for our pilots and navy men who may be on national duty patrolling the skies and waters and keeping Pakistan safe, even on Eid al Adha.
All of us appreciate the sacrifices they all make for us, everyday, our unsung heroes
 
IF THEY (terrorists) HIT US, WE WILL HIT THEM(Pakistan) BACK : MP Sashi Tharoor in Washington

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Oh please, don’t let common sense stop you from getting thrashed again — go ahead!
 
Oh please, don’t let common sense stop you from getting thrashed again — go ahead!
He is blackmailed and used by BJP since he killed his wife Sunanda Pushkar and released on condition that he will work for BJP.

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Death​

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On 17 January 2014, a day after the Twitter controversy, Pushkar was found dead in room number 345 of the Leela Palace hotel in Chanakyapuri, New Delhi, where the couple were temporarily living while their house was being renovated and painted.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a> Tharoor discovered her body when she did not wake up from her sleep in the evening. He informed the Delhi Police, who recovered the body from the hotel and sent it for postmortem. According to initial reports, Pushkar was suspected to have committed suicide. Later reports stated that the cause of death was unnatural; the doctors at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences gave a preliminary autopsy report that revealed injury marks on her body. They said that these injuries may or may not be the cause of death.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a> The autopsy indicated that she died of drug overdose, most likely a combination of sedatives, other strong medicines and probably alcohol.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-28"><span>[</span>28<span>]</span></a> An investigation was ordered by the Sub-Divisional Magistrate to examine the cause of poisoning and to ascertain if it was murder or suicide.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-29"><span>[</span>29<span>]</span></a> Her body was cremated at Lodhi Crematorium in South Delhi.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-30"><span>[</span>30<span>]</span></a>

Doctors at KIMS Hospital Trivandrum, who had examined her a few days earlier, said that Pushkar<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-31"><span>[</span>31<span>]</span></a> did not have serious health problems.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-32"><span>[</span>32<span>]</span></a> However, she had hinted about her death in a Twitter reply hours before her body was recovered from the hotel.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-33"><span>[</span>33<span>]</span></a>

On 1 July 2014, controversy over her death deepened when AIIMS doctor Sudhir Gupta claimed that he was pressured to give a false report in the case.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-34"><span>[</span>34<span>]</span></a> On 10 October 2014, the medical team probing her death concluded that she died of poisoning.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-35"><span>[</span>35<span>]</span></a>

On 6 January 2015, Delhi Police reported that Sunanda was murdered and filed a first information report in this regard.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-36"><span>[</span>36<span>]</span></a> Pushkar's domestic help alleged that Pushkar had often fought with Tharoor on the phone, and days before her death had threatened Tharoor that she would "disclose everything" and as such, he would be "finished".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-37"><span>[</span>37<span>]</span></a>

Subramanian Swamy, a BJP politician, tried to fight this case against Tharoor in January 2015. On 20 May 2015, a trial court allowed Delhi Police to conduct lie detector test on three suspects related to her death.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a>

In May 2018, Tharoor was charged with abetment to suicide of his wife and marital cruelty under sections 306 and 498A of the Indian Penal Code. However Tharoor refuted all the charges.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-39"><span>[</span>39<span>]</span></a>

On 18 August 2021, Special Court in Delhi discharged Shashi Tharoor from all charges for Pushkar's death.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunanda_Pushkar#cite_note-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a>
 
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