Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Slight credit to Indian Airforce on the 7 May debacle: IAF was launched to attack ground targets in Pakistan and India had even given prior warning.
That Indian advance warning was due to their hubris, as they were expecting easy victory over Pakistan and underestimating Pakistani capabilities. After receiving a thrashing, Indians will not be giving any more advance warnings.
 
Making a mess of a high value asset Indian style.
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Don't sell your weapons to India since they mastered the art of farting without fighting.
 
Seems like indians having fantasies about S400 again. If you believe the S400 was the panacea that it was meant to be, and all the claims of "grounding the PAF" and establishing a "no fly zone in Pakistan", how come the PAF were able to obliterate the IAF on the night of the 7th? Why wasn't your mighty airforce able to operate under the protection of the S400 with its much vaunted 400km range? I mean, wouldn't that have allowed the IAF to operate with impunity right up to the border with Pakistan? Is this the "tactical mistake" your CDS was referring to?

Clearly the PAF deployed SEAD measures to negate your S400 on the night of the 7th. Your IAF was grounded for two days scratching their arses to figure out what to do, and the best they came up with is to fly outside of the envelope of the PL15, firing a few token Scalps and maybe brahmos, most of which appear to have been either defeated by soft kill or intercepted with hard kill measures.

The failure from the Pakistani side is that they also waited too long, two days too, before launching their response. And when they did, they specifically targeted your S400 again. It may be debatable whether they actually managed a DEAD mission, but they definitely succeeded in SEAD, as your S400s were forced to shut down, redeploy, or go into storage...i.e. chicken out and hide. And then the ceasefire came.
Moreover if it is such a protector then why Russia is getting bruised left and right . Indian mentality of masses is simply believing everything they have is top notch without any failure rate
 
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Nice good stuff it will keep Indians at bay too

We need to start doing these patrols every alternate night until July or August to keep these mofos deterred
 
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Modi hates the idea of cows being slaughtered left and right on the Eid day.
 
Slight credit to Indian Airforce on the 7 May debacle: IAF was launched to attack ground targets in Pakistan and India had even given prior warning. Those were the advantages Pakistan used in a defensive posture to target and destroy IAF jets.
As for S400 and what not air defense systems on either side: They are largely ineffective between potent militaries in case of saturation strikes by Surface to Surface and Air to Surface missiles and by lethal drones. On that score, I don't think Pakistan's poorer geographical and economic strategic depth compared with India is a good match. Pakistan must think something new.


Pakistan didn't want to escalate after the gains on May 7. And India kept playing a game between May 7 and May 10 about a ceasefire. Pakistan was ahead, India was behind. That would explain a lot.
I don't buy that argument. If the IAF's only purpose was to attack ground targets in Pakistan, and it had given prior warning, why did it need to send over 70 aircraft, mostly configured in A2A? It only attacked half a dozen or so targets, it only needed 20-30 planes, max. I don't think prior warning was given, this is purely social media speculation at best, or just excuses being made up by the indian military or government.
 
Modi hates the idea of cows being slaughtered left and right on the Eid day.
Some indians are claiming here that only 1 rafale was shot

In my view this is what i can formulate:

1 Rafale was shot down in Bathinda. Populated area and it is the most well documented Rafale shot down

There is also a second Rafale shot down, Somewhere near the Beas River Region is where this happened and it crashed into bushes

A third one was also shot down but we dont know where, i speculate this could be the one with the supposed female pilot or its in a very unpopulated place
 

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