Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NationalistPKDude132]

They will try anyway they will find other reasons, other than terrorism accusation. Our attack should not be on dams but on attack they do on pakistan. Pakistan will retaliate based on that. Could be dams or even severe. Bully needs to be taught lesson based on that severity

Lets attack some Gautam Adani sites, just sayin hes pretty close with Modi and one of his masters

 

[PakSword]

No proof for it. About s400.

As I stated neutral people people believe on evidences, if someone say there was something on news article, yet not unverfied as many sources quoted he was amyman.

They can just laugh and move on.

It's kind of joke that china, Pakistan, turkey and including international neutral sources - can't find the evidence of there was a hit.... Even USA media analysis the satelite images and confirmed that no hit

Give access to the neutral sources, they will tell.

In a war, circumstantial evidences are enough ascertain the damage.

There are credible images of debris of your jets scattered across the boundaries. Your media initially aired reports of your losses, and then the reports were forcibly got removed.

There are reports that your S400 operator died.. his family members told the media that he was a S-400 operator of some sort. Of course, India is sane enough to not post a S-400 operator on LoC.. only a fool can accept it. Pakistan claimed the radar was taken out, and you couldn't show the radar when Modiji posed himself in front of S-400. We told you before Modiji visited.. that we have taken out radar, so there is no reason for you to say that you didn't have the opportunity to show the radar.

Another credible (not circumstantial) evidence is that your army officials accepted that there were losses. Poor army officials got the burnt of hindutva online trolls.

The biggest evidence of all if Modiji saying: PAKISTAN NE HUM PE HI HAMLA KARDIA. Of course Modiji won't say that unless it realy hurt him in his behind.. isn't it?

 

[Cookie Monster]

This are the words from Saad.
“Analysts from both sides are looking at the dithering after the counter air ops on part of Pak and deriving meaning that’s entirely disconnected from where Pak stands today.

Pak analysts: Pak was acting rational and didn’t want to start a regional conflict.

Indians: Pak dithered, and then did not respond to second wave of attacks, hence proven that a strategic cost can be implied on Pak.

A third opinion and this is just my pov:

1. There’re arguably very few forces on the planet that can interdict entirety of projectile salvos thrown at them. A certain middle eastern nation with the best possible layered AD needed support from 5 different nations in order to interdict a mass attack missile attack.

2. Pak dithered. Yes. But not out of some strategic reasons but due to its own fractured internal security and political situation. Pak analysts are mostly describing a disconnected reality when they describe just one facet of this reality.

Let’s look at the systems used: BBRA ammo at LOC, rudimentary rocket artillery in shape of F-1 and the very basic and very noisy Yiha-3 drones. The only high end system used was CM400AKG.

Which is also why most BDA from Pak side has been left wanting. Now, either Pak has access to realtime satellite based ISR or it doesn’t. If it’s argued that it does, even via the Chinese then why is there little to no BDA? Not even via commercial Chinese companies. Well I’d leave that answer up to you folks.

Food for thought: Pak did not even attempt to resort to the vast plethora of systems available to it: A100/F2/RAAD 1,2/Taimur or BREK or Akinci based LR munition et al. This is in stark contrast to other side using everything from Warmate to Brahmos to Scalp and Rampage. So, anyone who thinks that Pak needed some new system before being able to respond in kind, has no idea what they’re talking about.

What started off as a mere over LOC strike in 2016 has in less than 10 years graduated into full blown A2G munition landing in Pak proper.

If the internal security calculus is simply unable or incapable of calculating the overall cost of such fall of conventional deterrence in less than 10 years, across multiple govs then what does that tell you?

You won’t find Pak analysts try and answer this question.”

Some pertinent questions to which the answers are likely to be in the form of jokes or just chest thumping with cheap memes.

My personal opinion is that Pakistan started the volley on India with their cheapest munitions(rocket artillery like Fatah I, YIHA drones, etc) in order to assess Indian response...
...not just a military or political response...
...but also to gauge the effectiveness of Indian air defenses(India had put in great efforts over decades to build/buy multiple air defense systems). Moreover it was also a good strategy to use cheap munitions that could potentially deplete much more expensive interceptor missiles(of Indian AD), which would then leave it open to an attack(like for example destroying S400 with CM400AKG..per the claims).

In an all out war...that would have continued rather than this skirmish...Pakistan would have used better and higher end munitions(there would be no point in saving them when ur existence depends on it). IMO Pakistan expected it to be a skirmish rather than a war and therefore gave a limited response all the while extracting roughly the same cost/damage(mainly the IAF losses) and assessing/obtaining crucial/valuable data about Indian AD systems...while also dealing some damage on the ground.

 

[Psyko70]

Lets attack some Gautam Adani sites, just sayin hes pretty close with Modi and one of his masters

Pak leadership knows well whats better target.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Glad he is going to China beforehand, we should take China into complete confidence before any deal with the US.

As China-US relations are thawing, if we had the diplomatic imagination, we could try and help both reach a "Grand Bargain" and place ourselves as a mediator for Xi/Trump, just like we did with Nixon/Nixon in the 70s

In return Pakistan gets diplomatic support to secure water supply and security of balochistan.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Give access to the neutral sources, they will tell.

In a war, circumstantial evidences are enough ascertain the damage.

There are credible images of debris of your jets scattered across the boundaries. Your media initially aired reports of your losses, and then the reports were forcibly got removed.

There are reports that your S400 operator died.. his family members told the media that he was a S-400 operator of some sort. Of course, India is sane enough to not post a S-400 operator on LoC.. only a fool can accept it. Pakistan claimed the radar was taken out, and you couldn't show the radar when Modiji posed himself in front of S-400. We told you before Modiji visited.. that we have taken out radar, so there is no reason for you to say that you didn't have the opportunity to show the radar.

Another credible (not circumstantial) evidence is that your army officials accepted that there were losses. Poor army officials got the burnt of hindutva online trolls.

The biggest evidence of all if Modiji saying: PAKISTAN NE HUM PE HI HAMLA KARDIA. Of course Modiji won't say that unless it realy hurt him in his behind.. isn't it?

Modi is the best Pakistan PM he has officially given Pakistan:

. Better diplomatic respect around the world even trump likes Pakistan

. Given us some reputation militarily

. Internationalized the Kashmir Issue

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

They will try anyway they will find other reasons, other than terrorism accusation. Our attack should not be on dams but on attack they do on pakistan. Pakistan will retaliate based on that. Could be dams or even severe. Bully needs to be taught lesson based on that severity

Many gangs were busted who were planning to attack PAF bases between 7 and 9 May.

 

[PakSword]

The numbers of Fatah fired was phenomenal. There were bound to be few penetrating the AD this side.

And the damage was so insignificant that it was not even worth showing to the world. Thats why ISPR stayed away from showing BDA for those attacks.
They did fall inside few bases and caused minor damage but nothing critical and nowhere close to the kind done by IAF. In terms of scale, accuracy as well as depth.

Tell me the number of Fatah fired.. Good that you haven't said that we didn't hit you.. Major or Minor debate will come later.

 

[Sal12]

The numbers of Fatah fired was phenomenal. There were bound to be few penetrating the AD this side.

And the damage was so insignificant that it was not even worth showing to the world. Thats why ISPR stayed away from showing BDA for those attacks.
They did fall inside few bases and caused minor damage but nothing critical and nowhere close to the kind done by IAF. In terms of scale, accuracy as well as depth.

Did you show the wreckages of 6 downed Indian Jets to the world.

No, you didn't though the videos were already circulating in social media made by your citizens and international media like Reuters, CNN, Al Jazeera and so many others were giving the news that Indian jets were downed by PAF. This is the reason which made your chief defence staff to come out to international media and accepted the loss of Indian jets to Reuters in Singapore while your other officers were downplaying the loss of jets. Still your CDS did not give the number of downed Indian jets.

Had there were no videos of wreckages made by your citizens, India would have outright denied the loss of any jet.

Common citizens of India does not have the access of Indian military bases. Hence there are no videos of damages to Indian air bases though we have seen that the FATAH rockets hitting Indian land from the distance. So its easy for you to deny the damages of Indian bases by Pak.

 

[PakSword]

Modi is the best Pakistan PM he has officially given Pakistan:

. Better diplomatic respect around the world even trump likes Pakistan

. Given us some reputation militarily

. Internationalized the Kashmir Issue

Modiji acted so innocent when he said... "PAKISTAN NE... HUM PE HI HAMLA KARDIA".. as if he thought Pakistan would join hands with India in bombing its own civilians.. lol

Modiji is the perfect example of common bhaktorays!

 

[Vkdindian1]

Tell me the number of Fatah fired.. Good that you haven't said that we didn't hit you.. Major or Minor debate will come later.

It consisted of majority of attack from your side. And the claim made was that it the wepaons fired were more than that in the entire 1965 war.
Must be quite a lot.

Moreover, don’t try to steer the conversation to your convenience. Make your statement rather trying to make monosyllabic comments.

 

[Yasser76]

It consisted of majority of attack from your side. And the claim made was that it the wepaons fired were more than that in the entire 1965 war.
Must be quite a lot.

So you have no clue and just guessing?

 

[El Sidd]

It consisted of majority of attack from your side. And the claim made was that it the wepaons fired were more than that in the entire 1965 war.
Must be quite a lot.

Moreover, don’t try to steer the conversation to your convenience. Make your statement rather trying to make monosyllabic comments.

You misconstrue our mercy as a sign of weakness.

 

[PakSword]

It consisted of majority of attack from your side. And the claim made was that it the wepaons fired were more than that in the entire 1965 war.
Must be quite a lot.

Weapons could include the mortars we were firing at the border too.

Tell me the number of Fatah fired by us.. show is the wreckage of Fatah intercepted by your AD systems.. and then do a count, and then tell us what's the rate of success..

Good that you have still not taken back your earlier statement that we hit.. the damage assessment will come later.

Also take note that Pakistan only used Fatah.. which is not the best weapon in its inventory... you used all your might.. Brahmos.. in large numbers..

On a separate note, regarding the air superiority, your own journalist claimed that Pak jets were flying on Srinagar (that you call India proper now). Shut that journalist up like you shut down many media sources and independent international journalists on twitter.

 

[Psyko70]

Many gangs were busted who were planning to attack PAF bases between 7 and 9 May.

True thats why my faith as always remained intact to pak armed forces.