Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

samsite84 said:
Immigrated 12 years back to US, unlike low-life who only dream of moving to other countries but can never make it happen
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Oh sorry 'about our fellow Member ( @NationalistPKDude132 ) . He didn't mean it. I'm sure all your Documents are intact.

Its just that, rumor has it that Indians were being sent back on USAF's C-17 (Globemaster III). You know, the one the IAF also operates. Sad. They were all chained up like criminals.

Its even more sad that now Indian students are being deported back too. Not just from the US, but Canada too. Maybe Surrender Narendr might help out with Canada at the G7.

I'm sure they too had a Dream of moving to countries, but it didn't work out.

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@Musings @RescueRanger @Oscar @Waz
 
Trailer23 said:
Image..., dude we have entire videos with Punjabi music in the background - posted on version 1 of this Topic.

There is also the video where an interview is taking place of IAF cornering off the entire area & the person being interviewed about survivors.

I spent over 02 weeks (1,800+ Pages) collecting data from that Topic
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Yes I tried posting the video but the message kept appearing "Not Found" or something so just took a screenshot.
 
Waz said:
Yes. But mind you they were shot down by AD.
But's true this was the first major modern A2A engagement with everything that comes with it i.e. BVR, AWACS etc.
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Yes, sorry, what i meant was air to air kills. Not been done on this scale since Balkan wars, and even then it was NATO against an ancient Yugo/Serb air force.

I would even argue Gulf War 1 was so one sided. I think what PAF achieved against India has not really been done since Israel v Syria in 1980s
 
Well those Indians claiming victory here is a nice article from their own countryman......


"The IAF presence over J&K was sparse in 2 of the 3 days. Why?

“Because every time a fighter lifts off, Pakistani radars pick it up.
Because the Erieye sees what Indian radars can’t.
Because the PL-15 launches from outside Rafale’s threat envelope.
Because the Rafale, once India’s silver bullet, has been turned into a $250 million sitting duck.The IAF now flies 300 km behind its own borders.”



bharatkarnad.com

Rafale failed in Sindoor! Rethink this French option for MFA

[A grounded Tejas vs a flying Rafale!] The usual, unsatisfactory, inconclusive end to Sindoor. And that too inside of three days of start of military operations! What is equally surprising is how q…
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BJP Leaders statement, CDS statement, Congress statements, mass media hysteria.

Not really the behaviour of a country that has won an epic victory.

Pakistan side = Promotions, ceremony for PAF at the end of the month, poltical unity (unsure how long this will last).
 
Waz said:
Had to cull several already.
They are all united in spinning the narrative that Pakistan was helpless May 8, 9 and 10, and it cam be repeated at will. Their losses in air craft doesn't matter as they achieved a strategic victory.
Of course neutral experts are laughing at this, but they're going for a critical mass effect i.e. if millions upon millions of their social media users, combined with the Indian media say this it will be accepted as fact by the world.
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The word is China gave us access to their Beidu satellites and Pakistan has all the evidence to put a sock to Indians for next few decades, now it's another question whether PAF will give any details in the upcoming ceremony.
Indian leaders can only fool their gullible public who then enmass create these pathetic narratives which is a blessing for us. For last time they refused to admit the SU-30 loss and created the shooting down of F-16 circus.... Five years later, we killed every one of their frontline fighter .
It took these shamless creatures a month to admit any loss . They can do all the propaganda while PAF quietly goes about it's buisness to deliver even more lethal surprises.
 
This says it all.....


"The ultimate irony is this: through Operation Sindoor, India has not achieved its political objective of ending Pakistan’s proxy war in Jammu and Kashmir. It has also not accomplished the military aim of establishing deterrence against the Pakistan military. If anything, this operation has enhanced China’s global profile as a reliable friend capable of walking the talk. Worse, India today stands at the edge of a disastrous hot war from which it will need both sagacity and pragmatism to walk back."



thewire.in

Operation Sindoor: How India's Gamble Backfired and Made It More Vulnerable

India's recent military operation against Pakistan has failed to achieve its strategic objectives while exposing critical vulnerabilities and strengthening China-Pakistan cooperation. The subcontinent now teeters on the edge of a devastating conflict with China holding the keys to escalation...
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Just a daily reminder for our Indian friends....:))))

nationalinterest.org

How Did India Lose a Rafale Jet Against Pakistan?

As impressive as the Rafale’s maneuverability is, maneuverability doesn’t count for much in the BVR (beyond-visual-range) dogfighting conditions that comprised the dogfight between India and Pakistan.
nationalinterest.org nationalinterest.org
 
samsite84 said:
No satellite imagery or proof of destruction on India side while journalists taking pictures of broken buildings on Pakistan side. And YET - Pakistan won.
In general, Indians are too busy developing the nation and uplifting the population and don't want to be bothered by Pakistan. But when Pakistan's army chief spews vitriol about Hindus and his goonies carry out attacks on unarmed civilians a response needs to be given.

India has created a big difference vs. Pakistan across the board and most Pakistanis can't digest it. Pakistanis have been told stories of Hindu "Baniya" who is inferior to them (as a race) so how can they ever see beyond the bigotry. Few pointers:

1. GDP per capita is 60% higher, total GDP is 10X+ times higher
2. Value of Indian passport much higher vs. Pakistan
3. India exports Covid vaccine, Pakistan terrorism (if not to the world, to India)
4. Functioning democracy vs. military raj
5. Quality of life significantly better in India
6. Innovation significantly better in India

In US especially, Indians have built a "brand" - from CEOs to start-up founders to best researchers - you will find Indians in plenty. Think of the last time a Pakistani CEO or start-up founder was touted in US - I can't recall

Pakistani's love to play ludo while India is playing chess (on that note, see India's performance in chess vs. Pakistan lol)
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Value of Indian passport was shown in the Dunkee deportations. Handcuffed

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samsite84 said:
Sure illegal immigrants from India were sent back as they should be...

Also, its refreshing that you'd talk about everyone else but not you - what do you have to show for ?
The country that you currently reside has more per capita income/more wealth from India vs. Pakistan. That country honors Indians more than fellow "Muslims" from Pakistan
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Lol if you mean by "slave labor" then ok bro
 
PakSword said:
If shooting down your jets in every skirmish is called terrorism, it won't stop, sorry!
Regarding IOJK, you will have to forcefully vacate it once Pakistan and China finally decide to take their parts of Kashmir. Azad Kashmir, don't even think about it now.. you missed the bus in 1971.
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They lost iftikhar abad in 1971. They never had a chance on AJK, ever !
 
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