Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Vkdindian1]

@PakSword, I see that you have very selective requirements regarding debris of missiles.
When Fatah is in question you want each piece to be counted and shown to you with a proof that no damage was done to Indian targets.
But when it is convenient, the missiles are completely destroyed on impact or after hitting a target.
Decide kar lo ke chaahte kya ho.

P

Post in thread 'Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion'

Jun 8, 2025

Funny they couldn’t complain about PL-15 to china like they did about AIM-120 to muricans….

Yeh itnay kuttay ki tarah dig kartay hain ke BC AIM-120 khod ke nikal lia tha.. aur poori duniya ko dikhaya tha.. And then they recently found one little missile somewhere and started dancing they had intercepted a PL-15.. yet they couldn't find a one tonne 7.5 meter missile debris..



When a missile is intercepted mid-air by an AD system:

• It is usually shattered or broken into fragments.
• The interceptor either explodes near the missile (proximity fuse) or...

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[ety]

How good is the Hq-19 because i hear it has quite a long range and if its true we should definitely order 5-6 of these

I think the package together of J-35A, KJ-500 and HQ-19 is a game changer for the subcontinent, HQ-19 is a real deterrent for Indian craziness.

 

[Olympus81]

I think the package together of J-35A, KJ-500 and HQ-19 is a game changer for the subcontinent, HQ-19 is a real deterrent for Indian craziness.

The real deterrent is if Pakistan has its own supersonic and hypersonic projectiles.

The HQ-19 will be a good addition, and augmenting Pakistan’s deterrent capabilities, no doubt.

 

[TAC]

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Yeah sure pal, no damage anywhere and everything Pakistan fired got shot downso please explain why your spokesperson specifically listed all the bases that were hit and also specifically stated that those sites suffered damages in material and manpower??She’s not been honey trapped by ISI as well has she?

 

[ety]

The real deterrent is if Pakistan has its own supersonic and hypersonic projectiles.

The HQ-19 will be a good addition, and augmenting Pakistan’s deterrent capabilities, no doubt.

That too. I mean against Indian nuke missiles.

 

[TAC]

Good description Indian aircraft and where they fell in this article

Breaking News | Pakistan may have downed up to six fighter jets in what could be India’s heaviest air losses since 1971

Breaking News | Pakistan may have downed up to six fighter jets in what could be India’s heaviest air losses since 1971

armyrecognition.com

Biggest single day losses for IAF since 1971, didn’t even manage to hit 1 PAF jet and these shameless ’s declare ‘victory’

 

[Corax]

I think the package together of J-35A, KJ-500 and HQ-19 is a game changer for the subcontinent, HQ-19 is a real deterrent for Indian craziness.

Seems like a multi layered IADS, with HQ19 providing the upper end, ABM protection, followed by HQ9/FD2000, HQ16, and then locally produced Faaz/LOMAD types along with Spada. Not bad. Planning for potential nuclear exchange, the bar has been raised.

 

[Zorawar Light Tank]

The real deterrent is if Pakistan has its own supersonic and hypersonic projectiles.

The HQ-19 will be a good addition, and augmenting Pakistan’s deterrent capabilities, no doubt.

The estimated cost of the hypersonic BrahMos-II is $12.5 million per missile, which means just eight of them would equal the price of an F-35 fighter jet. Cruise missiles are very expensive

 

[Baibers_1260]

Globally, though, conflicts like India-Pakistan don’t attract the same level of attention. Western media usually reports on them with limited context and relies on neutral sources or publicly available evidence — but without deep investment or strategic interest, the coverage stays surface-level.

In fact the 1965 war was intensely reported with BBC, Reuters, TASS, AFP, VOA correspondents directly reporting from the front. The technology of the era permitted live audio broadcasts only with the audio saved for later dubbing onto video footage ( 16 mm) to be broadcast over western television networks. India did not have a national TV network at that time.
Digital copies of these reports are freely available in the Pathe, Reuters, API Archives uploaded to Youtube

1965 :
Pakistan was an important anti-communist ally, and CENTO member, while India was officially "non-aligned" though closely allied with the Soviet Union. The 1965 India-Pakistan conflict was covered by the Western press with a significant pro-Pakistan tilt. Pakistan had been prepared, and armed to be one of the states ( others being Turkey and Iran) to fight the Soviet Unions Southward drive to the Arabian Sea, and Persian Gulf. The 1965 war was deeply disappointing to the West as Pakistan was no longer fulfilling its primary role of countering communism but fighting India instead.

2025:
India has been prepared, and armed to join the QUAD alliance to fight China's south western drive to the Arabian Sea, and Persian Gulf, The 2025 is deeply disappointing to the West as India was no longer fulfilling its primary role of countering China but fighting Pakistan instead.
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The USA and the West have no stake in an India-Pakistan war; especially since unlike earlier wars it is no longer based on issues of territory or "terrorism " which can be resolved through mediation, but is simply a renewal and intensification of the ancient Hindu-Muslim conflict.
This 1500 year old Hindu-Muslim religious conflict fought across India with swords, clubs, fire-bombs and stones is extended into a Hindu India verses a Muslim Pakistan to be fought with missiles, bombs, aircraft, tanks and ultimately with nuclear weapons. There can be no mediation in a religious conflict which can only end in a stalemate or defeat of one side in a conflict
Remarkably even Israel which is India's closest military ally has virtually zero coverage of this war in its national press.

 

[Yasser76]

The clip of Captain Vyomika Singh and Sofia Qureshi was shamelessly edited by your DG ISPR clowns. They cut out the word “no” from “no casualties and no damage” to spin a fake narrative.

Pakistan military’s video editing skills are no joke—but more suited for TikTok drama than actual warfare. To top it off, they even edited Indian news footage from Aaj Tak and India TV and produced video game graphics as real evidence. It’s not just propaganda—it’s a comedy show.

Sit down and shut the f**k up.

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[Corax]

In fact the 1965 war was intensely reported with BBC, Reuters, TASS, AFP, VOA correspondents directly reporting from the front. The technology of the era permitted live audio broadcasts only with the audio saved for later dubbing onto video footage ( 16 mm) to be broadcast over western television networks. India did not have a national TV network at that time.
Digital copies of these reports are freely available in the Pathe, Reuters, API Archives uploaded to Youtube

1965 :
Pakistan was an important anti-communist ally, and CENTO member, while India was officially "non-aligned" though closely allied with the Soviet Union. The 1965 India-Pakistan conflict was covered by the Western press with a significant pro-Pakistan tilt. Pakistan had been prepared, and armed to be one of the states ( others being Turkey and Iran) to fight the Soviet Unions Southward drive to the Arabian Sea, and Persian Gulf. The 1965 war was deeply disappointing to the West as Pakistan was no longer fulfilling its primary role of countering communism but fighting India instead.

2025:
India has been prepared, and armed to join the QUAD alliance to fight China's south western drive to the Arabian Sea, and Persian Gulf, The 2025 is deeply disappointing to the West as India was no longer fulfilling its primary role of countering China but fighting Pakistan instead.
---------------------------------------------------
The USA and the West have no stake in an India-Pakistan war; especially since unlike earlier wars it is no longer based on issues of territory or "terrorism " which can be resolved through mediation, but is simply a renewal and intensification of the ancient Hindu-Muslim conflict.
This 1500 year old Hindu-Muslim religious conflict fought across India with swords, clubs, fire-bombs and stones is extended into a Hindu India verses a Muslim Pakistan to be fought with missiles, bombs, aircraft, tanks and ultimately with nuclear weapons. There can be no mediation in a religious conflict which can only end in a stalemate or defeat of one side in a conflict
Remarkably even Israel which is India's closest military ally has virtually zero coverage of this war in its national press.

Most of the Anglo world doesn't care, in fact, given the shift to right wing nationalism in the Anglo world, it wouldn't be a bad thing if there's 1.2 billion fewer poor brown hungry mouths to feed in the world. It's a war of annihilation, next conflict may well be nuclear, Pakistan seems to be planning for it with the acquisition of HQ19. But it won't make much difference, there won't be an India or Pakistan, problem solved.

 

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[Corax]

The clip of Captain Vyomika Singh and Sofia Qureshi was shamelessly edited by your DG ISPR clowns. They cut out the word “no” from “no casualties and no damage” to spin a fake narrative.

Pakistan military’s video editing skills are no joke—but more suited for TikTok drama than actual warfare. To top it off, they even edited Indian news footage from Aaj Tak and India TV and produced video game graphics as real evidence. It’s not just propaganda—it’s a comedy show.

Is it the same Sofia Qureshi who's the sister of the Kashmir freedom fighters who massacred the Hindu tourists? That's probably why she's giving off mixed signals, she seems conflicted.

 

[Musings]

You said, and I will repeat it, "No Hits", it does not say that anywhere in the article you just posted.

Again, we constantly catch you out for spreading misinfo on here

@Musings @Waz @Oscar

How long do we put up with this clown?

Bro

You do an excellent job putting him straight and showing him the truth. Why do you want to get rid? We would become an echo chamber - let us be a platform where we allow debate and a position where we can show them how crap their argument is