Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

So many fanboys screaming, jumping up and down on this clash in which Pakistan shot down 5 Indian fighters. The Indian military has learned the tactics and will employ their own strategy. It is time plan foxy clash as they will seek revenge.
Yea , the same was said after 2019 clash.
Then they tried to cover their loss by creating the F-16 circus and now ended up losing not 5 but 7 aircraft .
This time their airforce was even grounded for 2 days.
Is that too hard to digest .
 
Yea , the same was said after 2019 clash.
Then they tried to cover their loss by creating the F-16 circus and now ended up losing not 5 but 7 aircraft .
This time their airforce was even grounded for 2 days.
Is that too hard to digest .
India underestimated Pakistan and we should not do the same.
 
This is why I myself am of the opinion that we have hit/damaged/destroyed a big number of their prized jets. No wonder France is pissed, and so will the EU

India's time is now to be downhill, while Pakistan will now rise. Times are changing by the Almighty Allah SWT and HIS FAVOURITE country will now rise. The world is about to be shocked how it will happen.
A country that came into being by the WILL of Almighty Allah swt and blessing of RasoolAllah, is hereby going to rise to its real esteemed status very soon. NOBODY can dare to stop it.
In fact a retired PAF AM has hinted at that. Some IAF jets, being twin engined, could do the landing but were damaged.....
 
True fr because we definitely did hit stuff as supported by OSINT so lets just release it and put the fiasco behind us
As I have asked many times before, WHY?

Why the obsession with disclosure of our capabilities?

I'm not picking on just you, as around 50% of posters are saying the same thing.

These Indian trolls will never stop trolling. Do you think for one second that releasing unequivocal proof will convince the trolls? Even if that troll is the whole nation of India? They will stick their fingers in their ears and sing lalalala.

They still deny the cockpit audio of "Godzilla" that we played out in front of the world.

However, if we reveal our whole pack of cards, just to try and stop trolls from trolling, our smarter enemies will use that revealed knowledge against us.

We should give them no additional information.

In fact, if the enemy thinks he is stronger than he really is, suddenly we have an advantage over them.

I would go so far as to suggest to you and other forum goers that a big part of the success of PAF against the IAF on 7th May was actually due to our secrecy and as a result, them underestimating our abilities.

Let us preserve that edge.

Don't feed trolls.
 
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Back off, pakis, mighty omni role Indian rafaele is here!
 
Modi forced them to become his loudspeaker.
Massive loss to India.
On Pak side Dawn has come out of this very favourably
Now, it's almost like the majority of the Bharati population. It all started in late 80s or early 90s when they started to produce high budget and high drama serials on the Hindu mythology with tons of Hindutva indoctrination. As you sow, so will you reap....

As you are, so will you be ruled - Hadis-i Sherif
 
To those Indians here trying to downplay the destructive, counter productive, lying narrative of the Gestapo Godi Modi, the damage was not significant but I believe the damage globally was just as significant, if not more, as Pakistan downing several Indian jets.
The simmering problem - as we have discussed in this very forum - for India is that the prevailing political zeitgeist that has been crafted so successfully by the BJP-RSS nexus is now so dominant that there are no voices left to down-regulate and temper the extreme state narrative on a variety of issues, Pakistan being just one of them.

This has actually left India in a bit of a bind, as the leadership has to find ways to "prove" their own mantras when they are unable to control the whole narrative content. They can control narratives within India and within the echo chamber they have cultivated through their media, but as soon as Indians are forced to confront anyone outside that echo chamber with contrary evidence, then the facade crumbles.

Then they either double down on myriad mythical claims, or have to adopt a polar opposite view to the default extreme position taken by the echo chamber. They cannot find refuge by way of some compromise or by adopting some middling position because no such position is made available to them.
 
This loser then went on to report as 2 PAF jets shot down ... but ... but whose jets were they actually !!!

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I would like to think of how stupid he must have felt, when it turned out he was reporting Indian jets being shot down by Pakistan
 

Jaishankar Rushes to Paris:​

Looks like all's not well at the "Rafael" front! France is now mad with Bharat as they want to know the real #of Rafales: dead, wounded or alive. She can't afford to be an object of ridicule like the Hindutva Bharat for Rafales are earmarked to carry the nukes on behalf of the Western Europe, which is poking the Russian Bear with increasingly bigger nails....

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Let's look at it realistically. Every mobile phone is traceable. Western intelligence agencies can access phones through built-in backdoors. Even terrorists were taken out because of their phone use.

Are the French really that naive to not build backdoors into their platforms like Dassault Rafales for tracking, monitoring, intel. collection purposes -- and possibly more -- such as the ones in India?

Come on guys, the French know the truth. They know India lost the Rafales!
 

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