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The American military parade the other day lacked the fanfare.@Windjammer sb
but considering the situation around us not sure if they will go ahead .
Not sure why the ISR-IRAN situation has any bearing on the recent IND-PAK skirmish.
Regards
Ok we asked for ceasefire(lets say that) then why when modi was delivering his bollywood victory script pre recorded speech on 12th may we sent drones before the speech was even completedNew Delhi:
India has never asked for, and will never accept, third-party mediation to resolve the issue of Pakistan's illegal occupation of parts of Jammu and Kashmir - this was the highlight of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's late Tuesday phone conversation with US President Donald Trump.
Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri, briefing the press Wednesday morning about that 35-minute phone call - which took place while Mr Modi was in Canada to attend the G7 Summit - said the topic came up after Mr Trump asked Prime Minister Modi for details about Operation Sindoor.
Op Sindoor was India's successful military response to the Pahalgam terror attack.
The PM told Mr Trump India's response had been "measured" and targeted only terrorist camps in Pak and Pak-occupied Kashmir. The PM then also underlined India's position on third-party mediation - that it is neither wanted nor needed - and that this has always been the case.
"PM Modi stressed India has never accepted mediation, and does not accept and will never accept it. There is complete political unanimity in India on this," Mr Misri told the press.
The strong statement follows Mr Trump having repeatedly claimed credit for the Op Sindoor ceasefire - something India has firmly denied - and offering his 'services' to negotiate the Kashmir issue too.
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It also echoes Mr Modi's statement from May 12; the Prime Minister, in his first address to the nation after the Op Sindoor ceasefire, told Pakistan that there could be no talks over Jammu and Kashmir, except to dismantle terrorist infrastructure in the region and return India's territory.
READ | 'Vacate Illegally Occupied Kashmir': India Says Demand To Pak Won't Change
"If we ever talk to Pakistan, it will be on terror and P.ok only," the PM had said.
Tuesday's Modi-Trump phone call (and contents) is significant in the context of a confirmed meet between Mr Trump and Pak Army chief General Syed Asim Munir, who is in the US.
The Pak military leader will have lunch with Mr Trump at 1 pm Easten Time (10.30 pm IST) in the White House's Cabinet Room, according to the President's daily public schedule.
The timing is critical because Iran and Israel are inching closer to all-out war that could spread to Pak - it shares a land border with Iran - and consequently force to US to deploy troops.
The US will likely be compelled to act to safeguard Pak, which it sees as an ally in the region.
On paper the visit - the first since the Pahalgam attack that was sponsored by the Pak deep state - is 'primarily bilateral' and aimed at reinforcing military and strategic ties with the US.
'No Trade Deal Angle, Pak Asked For Ceasefire'
Meanwhile, on Mr Trump's claiming credit for the ceasefire, which he has done often, the PM said cessation of hostilities had been at the request of Pak and that Delhi and Islamabad discussed terms through existing channels of communication between the two militaries.
The India-US trade deal played no party in this episode, the PM also said, countering claims that the threat of high(er) tariffs on Indian and Pak exports to the US had brought the conflict to a halt.
READ | "Complicated, Nothing Decided Till...": S Jaishankar On US Trade Deal
"Let's not trade nukes, let's trade..." was what Mr Trump said he told India and Pakistan.
Trump's US Visit Invite
Foreign Secretary Misri said Mr Trump had 'lauded' India's efforts and invited Mr Modi to visit the US after his G7 trip. However, due to prior engagements, the PM had to decline the offer.
The phone call, it was confirmed, was in lieu of an in-person meeting on the sidelines of the G7 Summit. However, because Mr Trump had left early this meeting could not take place.
The phone call was at the request of Mr Trump, the Foreign Secretary said.
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"No Trade Deal Talk Or Mediation Offer During Pak Conflict": PM Modi To Trump
India has never asked for, and will never accept, third-party mediation to resolve the issue of Pakistan's illegal occupation of parts of Jammu and Kashmir - this was Prime Minister Narendra Modi's unequivocal message to US President Donald Trump.www.ndtv.com
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'India now regards terrorism not as proxy war but actual war': PM Modi tells Trump; rejects mediation claims | India News - The Times of India
India News: Prime Minister Narendra Modi received condolences from US President Donald Trump on Wednesday following the Pahalgam terror attack, which tragically rtimesofindia.indiatimes.com
Now it seems Pak army was right about balochistan insurgency and other terrorists activities.
Iran is heavily compromised, thats why it was easy for raw to come inside balochistan.
Indians are ready to roll anytime. Their spox even refused cease-fire in a statement. Expect fireworks within days or who knows when.why not?
Unless an attack is imminent things should be pretty normal in Pak's territory.
Not sure if our forces are still expecting another round from the indians>?
There are rumours India targeted these from over 300km away using navic satalites to hit specific hangers only
No mass strike just one or two hits on certain hangers only
I can tell you this like i said my dad is in the PAF
1. Nothing significant was damaged in any PAF Base except bholari where 1 awac was damaged(Repaired Now)
2.We gave damage to their side too, but right now we are keeping tight lipped about it to de escalate tension
3.we locked in 20-25 jets on 7th but showed restraint
Indians have yet to show one fatah wreckage by now especially if 99.9% was intercepted. yeah maybe in a bollywood script
Lol. Where is the proof? Visuals audio or a video? Still making things up out of your arse?Did you ask your dad what happened to the J10c and Pl15 and HQ9 air defense system on the 9th of may
This is genuine question
In one hour the Indian scalp and brahmos missles hit ten air bases
The most heavily guarded in.yiur country right across the full length
Not a single fighter shot down no missle intercepted
I ask again what changed between.the 7th May and 9th
India was found incompetent imo and lost jets on 7th you guys were ready well played
But on the 9th those satalites images from saragodah but khan and others is very sobering
Your air defense and fighter defense was no were
They have been saying this for a whole damn month now, issuing notams left and right but still dont show their faces.Indians are ready to roll anytime. Their spox even refused cease-fire in a statement. Expect fireworks within days or who knows when.
Where is the proof of this mythical HQ-9 being damagedDid you ask your dad what happened to the J10c and Pl15 and HQ9 air defense system on the 9th of may
This is genuine question
In one hour the Indian scalp and brahmos missles hit ten air bases
The most heavily guarded in.yiur country right across the full length
Not a single fighter shot down no missle intercepted
I ask again what changed between.the 7th May and 9th
India was found incompetent imo and lost jets on 7th you guys were ready well played
But on the 9th those satalites images from saragodah but khan and others is very sobering
Your air defense and fighter defense was no were
More BS scenarios created out of thin air to bull up IAF which got an epic humiliation. What happened was that after the humbling on the 7th u were forced almost entirely to resort to drones and ground to ground fire with IAF playing a very limited role from well within the safety of Indian airspace. The damage on Pakistan side of this is confirmed as very limited. Which is no different to what the Indian side has accepted. Suggest u find some other way to cope with the lost pride in IAF and Ra-fail. I appreciate the shock and humiliation of losing so many top of the line jets & being forced to ground your AF for 2 days in the middle of a 4 day war is unprecedented but making up fictitious stories in desperate attempt to redeem some dignity really is not becoming, even of u.Did you ask your dad what happened to the J10c and Pl15 and HQ9 air defense system on the 9th of may
This is genuine question
In one hour the Indian scalp and brahmos missles hit ten air bases
The most heavily guarded in.yiur country right across the full length
Not a single fighter shot down no missle intercepted
I ask again what changed between.the 7th May and 9th
India was found incompetent imo and lost jets on 7th you guys were ready well played
But on the 9th those satalites images from saragodah but khan and others is very sobering
Your air defense and fighter defense was no were
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