Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Master Chief]

So all pakistani accounts across different social platforms are being unbanned in India. It was never about bycotting everything Pakistani. Seems the only purpose was to block the pakistani narrative from reaching across the border during the conflict and let only indian media keep the people in a controlled domestic web of propganda and lies.

I mean, we should also infer that Modi doesn't really care about the victims of Pahalgam if he isn't going to follow through on his threats against Pakistan. How is this "isolation"?

I'm actually surprised.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

yeh tu hai hi dumb isko choro just follow what PAF says

yahi tau main kah raha kay eso ko wo post de detay jinka unko kak nahi pata hota? assembly main betay saaray koyi qanoon pass hota tau jab pucho kya qanoon pass kya wohi nahi pata hota tau more advance sawal kay ye qanoon kyun pass kya uska kya jawab deingay? har post pay yahi haal hai pakistan ka.. Allah hi chala raha iss mulk ko

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pakistani Missiles Target Entire India | Big Surprise for World Powers |Air Marshal (R) Arshad Malik​

 

[wgr2025]

What is almost certain is that India is likely to strike directly at Pak mil next time.
With J35 joining the party, it would definitely be something else.

You Still Believe the BS now being Paddled that since IAF was not cleared to Engage Military Targets hence the loss of Aircrafts and next time India will Target Military first. Nice way to cope up you know.

Lets assume that IAF was naive enough to Bomb ground targets without accounting for Enemy counter fire which is a default in any operational detail that does nt require any political backing , IAF still lost the aircrafts . The political constraint which is alleged and reeks of BS to shift blame , should nt have stopped IAF to defend its aircrafts or equipment in its own territory It would be nice if Indians just admitted that IAF had operational failure than political constraints

Second you keep talking about India and Pakistan as if both did not want to continue and both jumped at opportunity to do so . Well Good for Pakistan , Because Pakistan is not the one who wanted to attack India. There is a difference between India accepting a ceasefire while being the aggressor and Pakistan accepting a ceasefire. For Pakistan its a win because it did nt give any meaningful concession to India politically or Militarily and was able to get out of conflict and inflicting a significant damage to IAF the least.

India is supposed to do lot better than just sending a message that we can attack targets in Pakistan because india is economically and Militarily superior country and any conflict that India starts with Pakistan and Ends witg India accepting Ceasefire with nothing to show for except messaging should be considered defeat. That messaging already happened in 2019. whats the point of sending same message again?

The real Indian objectives and desires were to destroy Karachi Port and Capture Lahore as transmitted by Mainstream Indian media for world to see. So Im calling you out here with your BS that India did nt want to continue. India Did nt want to continue because Pakistan raised the costs within first 30 Minutes

 

[majjor sam]

The Last thing - and perhaps the biggest cause for concern on the Pakistani side - is the AD Gaps. The Fatah not finding its mark or the drones being bad are very minor issues because Pakistan has better and more numerous versions of both those weapons - keep in mind Fatah original purpose was to replace the Nasr - not be a long range strike weapon - and Fatah 2 was not used in this conflict.

Pakistans AD gaps were alarming - India used maybe 30% of its total strike capacity that night and Pakistan still had multiple interception failures - it is purely by the grace of god that Pakistan came out of that strike mostly unharmed - minus losing those airmen at Bholari.

Pakistan lost two extremely expensive Air Command Vehicles and a building complex at Nur Khan, Two damaged maintenance hangars and maintenance equipment at Bholari and Jacobabad, minor damage to an underground facility and a lost overground building complex at Murid, a damaged aircraft shelter at Sargodha, a Damaged C-130 (needed two new engines and a wing) and two damaged runways (minor). If any of these hits were just a little more on target or India used maybe 10% more of its strike capacity we could have been looking at a lost C-130 or AWACS.

Of course the PA and PAF have already realized their shortcomings and are working to fill them - but it’s not all roses for Pakistan in this conflict and that is what really should be discussed a couple of months in - Pakistan has nothing to prove to the Indian trolls that are still coping over their confirmed losses and claiming fanciful figures for ours.

In my opinion - The AD gaps were not due to quality but quantity - where Pakistan had AD present - Interceptions were regular and reliable - even up to 6-7 interceptions at single airbase. Plus either india had Terrible aim as well or Pakistan also has good jamming to where a good portion of Indian missiles undershot or overshot their targets - but we still had alarming hits on Pakistani airbases. PAF and PA need more AD ASAP, especially LOMADs for the PAF.

FYI there was no shelter damage in Sargodha, it was just a crater on runway at middle.

 

[Baibers_1260]

The point of view from the other side !
An extremely interesting and frank discussion between senior defense analysts in India, The discussions are sober and cover a wide range of topics, from tactical, strategic and internal issues. No hype .
Watch the entire video, which is somewhat easy to understand since the language used is a mix of 90% Urdu and 10% Hindi. ( Delhi language). Ask for clarifications on words if necessary,



Summary :
1. Pakistan's military capabilities are not conventionally inferior to India and it has full support from China. Pakistan is not deterred by India's numerical and economic superiority.
2. It is wishful thinking that Pakistan will collapse due to economic problems or internal insurgencies in Baluchistan or KP.
3. Poor geo-strategic perception, and wrong diplomatic policy has left India in a bind with few diplomatic options.
4. The "new normal" post-Operation Sindoor has lowered the threshold of war; a next more prolonged and far more devastating war is highly likely, if not inevitable . Pakistan is far more prepared for the next round and Operation Sindoor has exposed the limitations of the Indian Air Force and armed forces in general,
5. India has severe internal issues; political, economic and security and it can't launch and sustain wars to assert its hegemony in the region l
6. The solution: Acknowledge China as the leader of the Giobal South, and use China's support to reach out to Pakistan for a comprehensive dialogue and solution. A long term peace after resolution of issues with Pakistan will give India the opportunity to resolve its internal security issues, build a truly inclusive, and united India and concentrate on the economy and welfare of its population.
7. The overall picture however is pessimistic as the current political establishment juxtaposes the tensions with Pakistan to keep India in a state of constant conflict within, with its own people,

 

[Assault Rifle]

Pakistani Missiles Target Entire India | Big Surprise for World Powers |Air Marshal (R) Arshad Malik​

Entire video is based on a false quote.

This is what Jaishankar actually said:

Recounting the event as he saw it unfold on then, Jaishakar shared, “And in this particular case, I can tell you that I was in the room when Vice President (JD) Vance spoke to Prime Minister (Narendra) Modi on the night of May 9, saying that the Pakistanis would launch a very massive assault on India if we did not accept certain things.”

“…the Prime Minister was impervious to what the Pakistanis were threatening to do. On the contrary, he indicated that there would be a response from us. This was the night before and the Pakistanis did attack us massively that night, we responded very quickly thereafter,” he said.

“And the next morning, Mr (Secretary of State Marco) Rubio called me up and said the Pakistanis were ready to talk. So I can only tell you from my personal experience what happened. The rest I leave to you,” he added.

Redirect Notice

 

[gamaji]

I understand that - I’m not devaluing you as a source at all - I would really hope they were just empty trucks at the time of the strike - but we can confirm just from outside imagery that they were in fact the platforms PAF uses for this purpose.
Even if they were fully equipped, and we take your word for it that they were not at this instance - the strike would have taken them out - the point being that India was able to hit them and we couldn’t stop it.

Thanks for your effort. I think it should be appreciated. Taking a critical and realistic view of the May episode is critical and extremely useful in plugging in the shortcomings and deficiencies. I am sure our forces must be currently busy in doing the same thing.

However, I would like to point out that, given the proliferation of modern drones and advanced missiles, it may be a bit unrealistic to expect a 100% protection against enemy hits on our critical infrastructure. Like they say hope for the best but prepare for the worst, while trying to achieve the best from our ADs, Pak must be prepared for effectively and successfully dealing with the situation where enemy succeeds in scoring some really devastating hits on our critical infrastructure.

One thing that I sadly noticed during this round of hostilities was even our ‘military experts’ started publicly showing the signs of getting panicked after even a few losses on our own side, right during the hostilities. Without blaming them of cowardice, I think, it’s in fact indicative of a glaring deficiency and a lack of proper policy and training on part of the state of Pakistan. The state, during the peace time, must mentally prepare the Pakistani public and especially train our ‘military experts’ not to lose hope, get panicked, and start spreading pessimism among common people. Making Pakistani public hopeless and allowing pessimism taking roots among Pakistani masses is a sure recipe of disaster for the state.

Instead of expecting that we will never get serious missile hits, the Pakistani public must be prepared to stay calm, determined, and willing to play a constructive role in fighting back the enemy. At the same time, I am sure that our military command must be devising/updating new war plans/strategies such that we hit the enemy even harder if we get serious hits from enemy missiles and drones. We must not end up in a paralysis and leave ourselves at the mercy of the enemy. BTW, that’s the whole point to have nukes. But at the same time, our military must devise effective war strategies aimed at involving and preparing Pakistani public to play pre-determined constructive roles if the need arises.

 

[Gripen9]

Either Pakistan still has her, or she's either badly injured/dead, but in India.

I dont think we'll truly know for the next few years.

We are signatories to Geneva convention. You have to produce any uniformed member of opposing armed forces that have been captured and notify the government. Usually Red cross is also given access to ascertain their health. I don't think she is in Pak captivity. Most probably dead or severely injured. She was supposed to be the face of post strike Debrief with the other 2 token female officers they had trotted out. So her absence has spurred these wild theories.

 

[Lion]

FYI there was no shelter damage in Sargodha, it was just a crater on runway at middle.

That was Sukkur and not Sargodha - was misremembering while typing the initial message. This was empty because Sukkur doesn’t normally have aircraft deployed.

 

[Be dazzled]

Practising ACC hunting..

 

[Developereo]

They are even more venomous after recent conflict ....waiting for the right time....extremely danagerous enemy ....

Modi is in a bind.

Trump is wearing the Pak-India ceasefire like his favorite jacket, sneaking a peek in the mirror when he thinks no one is looking.

If Modi restarts the war, Trump will take it very personally, LOL.

This raises the chance that India will do another false flag to justify resuming the war.

 

[Maarkhoor]

This raises the chance that India will do another false flag to justify resuming the war.

And will meet with an end world would not forget for centuries.

 

[airhead]

Guys any news on the bholari damage? Did we lose a Saab or f16 as Indians are claiming? Any official confirmation from Paf or any inside scoop from your credible sources ? I heard news about a partial damage of a Saab but any partial damage of a sensitive plane like this can render a write off.

Also did we get any “come to Jesus” from Paf on why they weren’t able to stop the Brahmos? I think that is where we need to spend money ..maybe patriots from the US? Remember Iran was able to touch any idf/af air bases so we need a similar defense of our bases.

 

[Psyko70]

Guys any news on the bholari damage? Did we lose a Saab or f16 as Indians are claiming? Any official confirmation from Paf or any inside scoop from your credible sources ? I heard news about a partial damage of a Saab but any partial damage of a sensitive plane like this can render a write off.

Also did we get any “come to Jesus” from Paf on why they weren’t able to stop the Brahmos? I think that is where we need to spend money ..maybe patriots from the US? Remember Iran was able to touch any idf/af air bases so we need a similar defense of our bases.

Why is this question asked again and again. Please go through previous pages brother. No losses.