Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Meengla]

During the DGMO talks the Pakistanis had full information about Indian deployments and vectors, and asked that these be "wound down" That was how close the Chinese collaboration with Pakistan was. So says the General

Per a source, there are 40+ Chinese ISR satellites and they were made available to Pakistan during the recent India-Pakistan conflict. Wouldn't surprise me one bit: Just a few years ago, India and China had a border clash where soldiers from both sides died. That's a very hard obstacle for either side to climb over.
Basically, Modi has majorly, majorly screwed up Indian foreign policy in just ten years. I don't see how India can prevail over a Pakistan-China combine going forward?? Perhaps that's why Pravin Swahini keeps repeating that it might be Pakistan who initiates the next round of hostilities by 'crossing' the Line of Control in Kashmir.

 

[Trailer23]

BJP is desperately waiting to regain the public favour.

That's like a couple desperately trying to get pregnant, but ending up at a Fraternity Clinic.

 

[Corax]

Senior researcher with USA's Federation of American Scientists (FAS- A most reputed body) reveals strikes on nuclear military infrastructure during Oepration Sindoor.

Nuclear risks grow as new arms race looms—new SIPRI Yearbook out now

(Stockholm, 16 June 2025) The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) today launches its annual assessment of the state of armaments, disarmament and international security. Key findings of SIPRI Yearbook 2025 are that a dangerous new nuclear arms race is emerging at a time when...

www.sipri.org

This definitely refers to Kirana hills strike and PAF Murid strike

I thought both countries have an agreement not to target each other's nuclear related infrastructure? If that's the case, no problem, as long as both countries know where they stand.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Al Jazeera has been generally pro Pakistan. But to hire this anchor to interview Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is questionable. It is good that Bilawal has a great command of English language and knows the nuances of the Western discourse so he has done well in the few minutes I saw of this interview.

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Some points to be considered here:

• Pakistan should INSIST on holding interviews in Urdu ( chaste Urdu), just like the Chinese and Turks hold interviews in their own language. Russians do exactly the same.
• India has a sophisticated English savvy motivated media Hindutva group who use the English/Indish language as a tool
• There is a reason for Indians to have a passing competency in Indish (not Queen's English). India does not really have a functioning link language. South Indians refuse to communicate in Sanskritized "Shudh" Hindi and their accented ungrammatical Hindi is lampooned by North Indians. South Indians prefer to communicate in English/Indish forcing most upper class Indians to acquire some proficiency.
• Which is why the Indian Parliament is the only Parliament in the world that has interpreters. Members of the Indian Parliament wear headphones which they often remove and hurl at each other when the translation is delayed or distorted.
• Pakistan has a fully functioning link language which is Urdu; which makes learning conversational English unnecessary. While Pakistanis are competent enough in the English language to use it for Information Technology, Engineering, Medicine, Law, other professions including most importantly Defence Services communications. Pakistanis however very seldom converse in English. The Pre-Partition generation had to communicate with the rest of India so their English conversation skills were adequate and equivalent to their Indian counterparts. Today there is really no need.
• There is no need to play the "Indian" language card. Get Indians to hire interpreters and talk in Urdu. One person who did this very effectively was former Chief of Army Staff Mirza Aslam Beg, Hailing from Azamgarh Uttar Pradesh ( now the Hindutva Cow Belt heartland) his Urdu was flawless. Even though his English was excellent General Aslam Beg effectively beat Indian and Western reporters at their own game by speaking in Urdu. Another person who adopts this strategy is Russia's foreign policy spokesperson Dmitri Peskov who speaks in Russian even though his English is excellent. It would be nice to see Srinivasan Jain struggle with words trying to speak to Oriya Maqbool Jaan.

@Meengla @Corax @Master Chief

 

[Jango007]

Hehehehehehe loving this war of words and hints between Modi sarkar and their humiliated military.....

‘Political limits’: Why did India lose jets to Pakistani fire in May fight?

Navy Captain Shiv Kumar's comments suggesting the government stopped the military from hitting back spark furore.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Hehehehehehe loving this war of words and hints between Modi sarkar and their humiliated military.....

‘Political limits’: Why did India lose jets to Pakistani fire in May fight?

Navy Captain Shiv Kumar's comments suggesting the government stopped the military from hitting back spark furore.

www.aljazeera.com

i hate modi but he gave free hand, this fool has no oe to blame but himself

 

[Gripen9]

Damage, not loss. Minor damage to the wing. Being repaired. No assets were lost.

Overlord 3 already operational

 

[Jango007]

This is the answer to Indian rona shona:

"According to the commentary, a seemingly weaker force leveraged an imported combat system – “combining data links, early warning aircraft, air defence systems, and coordinated fighter jets” – to overwhelm its opponent’s mishmash of weapons from different countries."

“From the moment an enemy aircraft takes off, our early warning aircraft must immediately detect it, guiding air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles to strike before the pilot even realises the danger.”

China’s war lessons after India-Pakistan conflict prioritise integrated systems

Study Times commentary does not directly mention the encounter but reflects reports of what occurred.

www.scmp.com

 

[A1Kaid]

Modi is in a bind.

Trump is wearing the Pak-India ceasefire like his favorite jacket, sneaking a peek in the mirror when he thinks no one is looking.

If Modi restarts the war, Trump will take it very personally, LOL.

This raises the chance that India will do another false flag to justify resuming the war.

Not just Modi

But many Indian generals and senior staff are looting the Indian army and government contracts for all they can before the inevitable collapse of their army. Many have moved the money offshore for early retirement. They are just milking India at this point.

They know that despite a massive $75B annual defense budget the army is too corrupt and inefficient to competently fight a full scale war with either Pakistan or China.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Not just Modi

But many Indian generals and senior staff are looting the Indian army and government contracts for all they can before the inevitable collapse of their army. Many have moved the money offshore for early retirement. They are just milking India at this point.

They know that despite a massive $75B annual defense budget the army is too corrupt and inefficient to competently fight a full scale war with either Pakistan and India.

oh so kinda just like our generals

Heyyyyy maybe we arent so different

 

[Baibers_1260]

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Funny, "Shaky" Gupta has no information how the Chinese and Pakistani procurement systems.
So now Indian armed forces are blaming their equipment for their performance.
Did someone hear the story about the " bad carpenter " ?

 

[Distant_Observer]

Funny, "Shaky" Gupta has no information how the Chinese and Pakistani procurement systems.
So now Indian armed forces are blaming their equipment for their performance.
Did someone hear the story about the " bad carpenter " ?

Can you imagine how obnoxious they would be if they had won. Pakistan has always been very graceful in defeat and success.

They spent 1 entire month denying and gaslighting everything.

 

[Path-Finder]

Is it true, today they blamed China and Türkiye for their loss?

 

[Distant_Observer]

Is it true, today they blamed China and Türkiye for their loss?

In their universe Pakistan should be ignored and isolated. Minimized into obscurity. Left alone so India can abuse it like they have been doing to Bangladesh through Hasina.

 

[Baibers_1260]

nope, gotta show public operation is "ongoing"

Quite a contradiction by this senile general:

1. We can control the escalation
2. We came out on "top" and we stopped the war
3, The war is ongoing