Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
Once the IA Deputy Chief starts mentioning China+Pakistan IMO it basically implies they have given up. Historically speaking, they didn't take any counter action against China after 1962 defeat or after Galwan debacle.or continous salami slicing of their lands. Anyway, it's a great way to increase defense spending by importing from outside, which doesn't fail to enrich the generals and Modi's closest patrons....

The Bharati mindset goes by numbers. If you're 10x smaller they'll bully you. If you're 10x bigger they'll flatter you. They basically worship power and achieve.ent. Even Emperor Akbar was called "god of Delhi"! Nauzubillah, Hasha Summe Hasha....
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That was so on point there inferiority complex from Muslim rule is so much high they can't forget and won't forget.
 
GoatsMilk said:
He sounds like a complete and total idiot. He "learned lessons" from what should have been obvious before the "conflict" even started.
China provided intel, of course they would provide intel. Turks provided drones and had "trained individuals" no shit.
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Notice that the Indian narrative of officially naming other countries helping Pakistan started very late and reluctantly and that's because that would counter the Indian claim of Pakistan being 'isolated'. And by blaming China, it might have worked to bring in Western support for India but I don't think the West, at this point, is going to be too involved to support India against China.
The fact is that India is internationally isolated over the Pahalgam related conflict and they know that. They also know that Pakistan/China combine has gained immensely from the conflict in international stature as evidenced by weapons sale, investments, loans going to either China or Pakistan.
PS. It was brilliant by Bilawal in the Al Jazeera interview to call India's 'New Normal' as 'New Abnormal'.
 
Meengla said:
Notice that the Indian narrative of officially naming other countries helping Pakistan started very late and reluctantly and that's because that would counter the Indian claim of Pakistan being 'isolated'. And by blaming China, it might have worked to bring in Western support for India but I don't think the West, at this point, is going to be too involved to support India against China.
The fact is that India is internationally isolated over the Pahalgam related conflict and they know that. They also know that Pakistan/China combine has gained immensely from the conflict in international stature as evidenced by weapons sale, investments, loans going to either China or Pakistan.
PS. It was brilliant by Bilawal in the Al Jazeera interview to call India's 'New Normal' as 'New Abnormal'.
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Once a nuclear power starts hurling missiles into another nuclear country - and that too in the subcontinent with ~2b folks - it means madness, delusion, and suicidal tendency of the highest order. Bharat wants to take down the entire world with her due to terrorist Hindutva ideology, whose religious redemption lies in Pakistan's perdition. Bharat has been Pak's problem, now she's become entire world's migraine due to a cancerous tumor growing with time. Some serious surgery to remove that tumor is required....
 
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Also, which ˹powerless˺ force will come to your help instead of the Most Compassionate? Indeed, the disbelievers are only ˹lost˺ in delusion. - Sura Al Mulk, Ayet#20

Bharati delusion is getting into another level....

India needs a graded plan for Pakistan & Asim Munir— Kutch was the cue, Sindoor the signal​

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SIPRI REPORT

https://www.sipri.org/media/press-r...ew-arms-race-looms-new-sipri-yearbook-out-now


In early 2025 tensions between India and Pakistan briefly spilled over into armed conflict.

‘The combination of strikes on nuclear-related military infrastructure and third-party disinformation risked turning a conventional conflict into a nuclear crisis,’ said Matt Korda, Associate Senior Researcher with SIPRI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Programme and Associate Director for the Nuclear Information Project at FAS. ‘This should act as a stark warning for states seeking to increase their reliance on nuclear weapons.’
 
I see many members quoting the speech given by IA officer and twisting it to create a narrative that his speech was acceptance of defeat.

He is not accepting anything folks. He is just analysing the conflict in a candid manner and the lessons drawn from it. His statement that China too was involved doesn’t mean that it was a defeat for India. Active involvement of China is very different from supplying equipment. Providing active ISR support is completely different, which China did. That is what gave success to Pakistan on the first day.

We all know what happened when India factored in direct Chinese involvement and changed the game plan from 8-10th May.

In fact it is commendable that an officer of his rank isn’t trying to play propaganda game and is ready to discuss everything openly, unlike his counterparts across the border, who have maintained complete silence. A few of those speaking up are also only about success all the way and no shortfall whatsoever.
 
Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
Nehru is like Peter Pan. He doesn't learn anything new or unlearns what he has already learnt - Jinnah

Indian Military Has Learnt Wrong Lessons from Op Sindoor
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Parveen Sawhney has been a critic of almost each and every endeavour made by the Indian government and The Forces dealing with security, both, internal as well as external.

Each and every one of his discourse is against the official policies and decisions taken by the Indian government. Is he playing devil’s advocate all the time? How come each and every thing done by the government is always wrong?

He is lucky that he is in India. In few other countries, he would have vanished for a few days or even months and then reappeared with a complete software reset.
 
A good recap. Looks like the Pak Deep State is leaking some info for the common folks....

Indian deputy army chief's speech confirms Inia's hands down defeat​

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Someone purchased satellite image of IAF Base Adampur from 10/11th May morning and made it viral on twitter.

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He got it from this American geoint website for $140.

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If Iran is switching to Beidou, and considering Starlink works on GPS, is Iran going to permanently Jam GPS signals in an around its country?
 
Vkdindian1 said:
I see many members quoting the speech given by IA officer and twisting it to create a narrative that his speech was acceptance of defeat.

He is not accepting anything folks. He is just analysing the conflict in a candid manner and the lessons drawn from it. His statement that China too was involved doesn’t mean that it was a defeat for India. Active involvement of China is very different from supplying equipment. Providing active ISR support is completely different, which China did. That is what gave success to Pakistan on the first day.

We all know what happened when India factored in direct Chinese involvement and changed the game plan from 8-10th May.

In fact it is commendable that an officer of his rank isn’t trying to play propaganda game and is ready to discuss everything openly, unlike his counterparts across the border, who have maintained complete silence. A few of those speaking up are also only about success all the way and no shortfall whatsoever.
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Thank you for making things clear for our understanding.....we thought we have won Sindoor Round 1.

BTW, the stupid General blaming China's involvement.....if same logic...applies ....Russia, Israel, France were also involved from Indian side ....because of the hardware IA and IAF was using.....bought from these countries....

And what about Isreali direct involvement from Indian side?
 
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Saif Ali Khan lost the battle in court!! India looses over a Trillion dollars to Bunyan Marsoos​


Interesting. Operation Sindoor is in fact on-going, albeit against even the most Hindu-ized Muslims like Saif Ali Khan. If he can't make it, no Muslim in Bharat can. Jinnah was absolutely right in stressing "Absolutely NO" to the Hindutva-in-disguise (Gandhi, Nehru etc.)...

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NA71 said:
Thank you for making things clear for our understanding.....we thought we have won Sindoor Round 1.

BTW, the stupid General blaming China's involvement.....if same logic...applies ....Russia, Israel, France were also involved from Indian side ....because of the hardware IA and IAF was using from these countries....

And what about Isreali direct involvement from Indian side?
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If anything it shows the incompetence of the Indian high command, how could not anticipate the Pakistan China connection??

What did they think was going to happen?
 
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