Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[ghazi52]

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[PK781]

Pakistan airspace not available to Indian airlines or aircrafts.

They should not even expect it to re-open, specially when according to them their operation tandoor is ongoing.
It sure is affecting their europe/north-american flights........adding time and costs on them and frustrating passengers into ditching their own airlines and fly foreign based airlines.

Pakistan is again benefitting alot due to its strategic location, Allhumdulillah.

 

[Master Chief]

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We are simply reminding Indians of their history. Let them circle north and fly over Uzbekistan.

@alphaOmega

 

[alphaOmega]

We are simply reminding Indians of their history. Let them circle north and fly over Uzbekistan.

@alphaOmega

Our history is also your history. Which part of India do you think "Hindu/Sindhu - Kush/Killer" got it's name from? Their proclivity towards beating up South Asians hasn't subsided since then

Munir’s “restrain and maturity” and obsession of meeting Trump meant that India was allowed to strike Pakistan with its missiles while PAF had its hands tied behind its back.

An inversion of reality if anything, the initial strikes on May 7 were constrained by political directives, otherwise standoff munitions would have been used like was the case on May 10, and is the case in all peer conflicts from Ukraine to even Israel against Iran. Unless of course you are seriously asking people to believe that the Pakistanis let various cruise missiles hit their airbases and even kill their airmen because...Munir wanted to please Trump?

Alan Warnes, world repspected aviation journolist given access to PAF installations, aircrew and aircraft for two weeks for indepth write ups

I notice you mention this guy a lot, a quick search of your profile for this name reveals a sort of religious reverence for him. So I Googled him. No mention of him in any large media reports a la NYT, Reuters, Associated Press etc etc (unlike say, Justin Bronk from RUSI who is often cited for air warfare analysis by large media houses), his X feed is just him reposting Pakistani official claims uncritically, which you treat as canon simply because he is a European face (why aren't the statements of your own officers enough? Why do they have to launder it through 3rd parties like this?). And the level of access he gets from the PAF to take cool photos which he can then make money from as a freelance photographer gives us a clue as to why he doesn't really want to question the PAF narratives in his accompanying write-ups.

You are talking about India as some grand super power which they are NOT. India cannot fight few hundred Kashmiri fighters and resorts to Randi rona to accuse others.

You expect Pakistan to be friends with a country which occupies 60 percent of our territory in Kashmir, helped break Pakistan in 1971 and is ruled by a maniac and racist ideology lead BJP?

These two paragraphs somehow contradict each other. Is India weak and on the cusp of losing Kashmir from a few hundred fighters or is it this evil empire which broke up Pakistan and continues to occupy rightful Pakistani territory despite all the Chinese and American backing that Pakistan has had?

Someone already took a screenshot before this article was deleted

There is such a thing as archive.is or wayback machine these days. Webpage screenshots are not hard to fabricate via editing the HTML code, and the bad grammar (04 Rafale, not "4 Rafales" or "4 Rafale fighters") just makes it even more suspicious.

But by all means, do continue with this inflation. I've heard of drowning out your enemy's truth with lies method, like Indian media does, but Pakistan must be the first country to drown out its own truth with lies.

 

[Master Chief]

Our history is also your history. Which part of India do you think "Hindu/Sindhu - Kush/Killer" got it's name from? Their proclivity towards beating up South Asians hasn't subsided since then

Be very specific if you wish to discuss shared history. Pakistanis and north Indians share significant genetic ancestry, which is what I presume you meant.

In any event, only your kind are embarrassed enough to feel "offended" by India's very real Mughal political history. That's why I suggested a trip to Uzbekistan for you folks. Or just keep releasing Bollywood movies where the Marathas won everything - doesn't bother me.

 

[Master Chief]

May 7 were constrained by political directives, otherwise standoff munitions would have been used like was the case on May 10

Yes. Many countries can use standoff munitions - that isn't the issue. You keep conflating missile attacks on ground targets with aerial combat. Your RoE didn't stop airborne assets from returning fire when engaged - no RoE would actually be this stupid. Continue the cope.

 

[Master Chief]

notice you mention this guy a lot

Love how you pretend so hard here to not know who Alan Warnes is.

 

[Master Chief]

These two paragraphs somehow contradict each other.

Where was the contradiction?

The post you responded to implied that India used to be a threat. Now it isn't.

Have to agree. Even your aircraft carrier got scared and turned tail for home.

 

[alphaOmega]

Be very specific if you wish to discuss shared history. Pakistanis and north Indians share significant genetic ancestry, which is what I presume you meant.

In any event, only your kind are embarrassed enough to feel "offended" by India's very real Mughal political history. That's why I suggested a trip to Uzbekistan for you folks. Or just keep releasing Bollywood movies where the Marathas won everything - doesn't bother me.

I'm not a sanghi or Hindu nationalists. I don't resent Mughal history or see it as anything bad, given the Mughals assimilated into the subcontinent and contributed to its architecture and culture.

But it always struck me as strange to see Pakistanis treating the Mughals conquests (which is what they were initially, similar to the Normans in England) as their own.

 

[alphaOmega]

Love how you pretend so hard here to not know who Alan Warnes is

You know him because he is a Pakistani air force cheerleader, but don't assume that this means he is "world renowned". There is obviously a conflict of interest involved here when so much of his income stream relies on maintaining access to insider PAF facilities normally off limits to other journalists who take on a more neutral tone.

 

[Master Chief]

I'm not a sanghi or Hindu nationalists. I don't resent Mughal history or see it as anything bad, given the Mughals assimilated into the subcontinent and contributed to its architecture and culture.

But it always struck me as strange to see Pakistanis treating the Mughals conquests (which is what they were initially, similar to the Normans in England) as their own.

Perfect. You mentioned England, so let's discuss how a mature and civilised people like the English handle their own brutal history.

Are Anglo-Saxons "English"?

Where were they from originally?

Do "nationalist" Englishmen harp on about how brutal and horrific Anglo-Saxon invaders were towards native Celts and disown their own A-S heritage as a consequence?

Good. Now go and bother your sanghee brethren with your complaints. Pakistanis are proud of every segment of their heritage.

 

[Distant_Observer]

But it always struck me as strange to see Pakistanis treating the Mughals conquests (which is what they were initially, similar to the Normans in England) as their own.

Because ideologically they were. We do not believe in brahmin superiority, we believe in Islamic rule. Pakistan was the ideological vessel for Mughal rule in the subcontinent.

All Indian Muslims are therefore intrinsically Pakistani. This forms the bedrock of the two-nation theory.

 

[El Sidd]

Because ideologically they were. We do not believe in brahmin superiority, we believe in Islamic rule. Pakistan was the ideological vessel for Mughal rule in the subcontinent.

All Indian Muslims are therefore intrinsically Pakistani. This forms the bedrock of the two-nation theory.

That's some voodoo logic.

No Pakistani would be comfortable with any association with Sofia Qureshi. She is a suicide risk.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

West has given them over $300 Billion in direct investment since early 90s to do the dirty work. they are asking India for action or forget more investments or even threatening to pull out investments..
they will comply to their masters

He who receives finances, investments, loans etc. also receives orders....