Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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acknowledged fast Chinese leaps in missile tech. (but still was in denial and says Meteor is far superior!). Then, he compares head-on(and tail chase) on PL16 and PL 15 and discusses missile ranges.

ends by saying Rafale needs more meteor and Indian origin missiles.
 
'No evidence Pahalgam attackers came from Pakistan': Congress leader assails Modi govt

Chidambaram questions Modi govt's silence on crucial aspects such as identity of attackers
By
Web Desk
|
July 28, 2025


Congress leader suggests government might be hiding tactical mistakes.
Why do you assume that they came from Pakistan?, says Chidambaram.
Chidambaram accuses govt of withholding important information from public.

India's senior Congress leader and former Home Minister P Chidambaram has criticised the Modi government for its lack of transparency in handling the Pahalgam attack and the follow-up Operation Sindoor.


In an interview with The Quint, Chidambaram questioned the Modi-led BJP's government's silence on crucial aspects such as the identity of the attackers and the status of the NIA's investigation.

He suggested that the government might be hiding tactical mistakes and casualties, accusing it of withholding important information from the public.

"Where are the terrorist attackers? Why have you not apprehended them, or even identified them? A news item had emerged about the arrest of a few people who gave the attackers shelter. What happened to them?" he asked, referring to the April 22 Pahalgam attack that killed 26 people.

Chidambaram also highlighted what he described as the absence of clear and official communication.

"We get snatches and bits of information from different officers. The Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) goes to Singapore and makes a statement that give you bits of information. The deputy army chief makes a statement in Mumbai. In Indonesia, a junior officer of the Navy makes a statement. But why is the PM or the defence minister, or the foreign minister not making a comprehensive statement?" he said.

When asked what he thought the government was attempting to conceal, Chidambaram replied: "I think, and this is speculation, I think they are hiding the fact that we made tactical mistakes (during Operation Sindoor), and we re-strategised...

The CDS gave a hint about it. What were the tactical errors? What changes were made to the strategy? Either the BJP government lacks the competence to answer these questions or it is deliberately avoiding them," Chidambaram said.

He also raised concerns about the National Investigation Agency's (NIA) involvement in the probe.

"They are unwilling to disclose what the NIA has done all these weeks. Have they identified the terrorists, where they came from? For all we know, they could be homegrown terrorists. Why do you assume that they came from Pakistan? There's no evidence of that," he said.

Chidambaram further added: "They are also hiding the losses. I said it in a column that in a war, losses will occur on both sides. I understand that India would have suffered losses. Be upfront."


Earlier in April, the Indian central government, under Modi, reportedly admitted that a security failure played a role in the terror attack in Pahalgam, located in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), which resulted in the deaths of 26 people, most of them tourists.

The conflict
In May this year, Pakistan and India engaged in the military confrontation triggered by April's Pahalgam attack in IIOJK.

In response to the Indian aggression, Pakistan's armed forces launched a large-scale retaliatory military action, named "Operation Bunyan-um-Marsoos", and targeted several Indian military targets across multiple regions.

Pakistan downed its six fighter jets, including three Rafales, and dozens of drones. After at least 87 hours, the war between the two nuclear-armed nations ended on May 10 with a ceasefire agreement brokered by the US.

The ceasefire was first announced by US President Donald Trump on social media after Washington held talks with both sides, but India has differed with Trump's claims that it resulted from his intervention and threats to sever trade talks.

However, Pakistan has acknowledged Trump's efforts and formally recommended him for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize, citing his role in defusing tensions between Pakistan and India last month.

 
acknowledged fast Chinese leaps in missile tech. (but still was in denial and says Meteor is far superior!). Then, he compares head-on(and tail chase) on PL16 and PL 15 and discusses missile ranges.

ends by saying Rafale needs more meteor and Indian origin missiles.
If they are judging based on that "leaked" pic, then I'll say they are too naive, lol.
 
If they are judging based on that "leaked" pic, then I'll say they are too naive, lol.
they have a symbiotic (like birds eating parasites for crocs) relationship with the west..

hype up things, get more economic returns out of USA and its partners to blackmail them more.

this has asymmetric payoffs (bec. virtually, they are never going to fight!).

Although, downside is, trust runs out quickly (like a hollow chipping block standing like a strong tree)..

more facade then reality.

Although, this lowers nuclear thresholds (but by then it will be too late!)
 
"They are unwilling to disclose what the NIA has done all these weeks. Have they identified the terrorists, where they came from? For all we know, they could be homegrown terrorists. Why do you assume that they came from Pakistan? There's no evidence of that," he said.

Fake encounter is going on in IoK. If you believe Indian SM then pahalgam attackers were ex-SSG lol
 
'No evidence Pahalgam attackers came from Pakistan': Congress leader assails Modi govt

Chidambaram questions Modi govt's silence on crucial aspects such as identity of attackers
By
Web Desk
|
July 28, 2025


Congress leader suggests government might be hiding tactical mistakes.
Why do you assume that they came from Pakistan?, says Chidambaram.
Chidambaram accuses govt of withholding important information from public.

India's senior Congress leader and former Home Minister P Chidambaram has criticised the Modi government for its lack of transparency in handling the Pahalgam attack and the follow-up Operation Sindoor.


In an interview with The Quint, Chidambaram questioned the Modi-led BJP's government's silence on crucial aspects such as the identity of the attackers and the status of the NIA's investigation.

He suggested that the government might be hiding tactical mistakes and casualties, accusing it of withholding important information from the public.

"Where are the terrorist attackers? Why have you not apprehended them, or even identified them? A news item had emerged about the arrest of a few people who gave the attackers shelter. What happened to them?" he asked, referring to the April 22 Pahalgam attack that killed 26 people.

Chidambaram also highlighted what he described as the absence of clear and official communication.

"We get snatches and bits of information from different officers. The Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) goes to Singapore and makes a statement that give you bits of information. The deputy army chief makes a statement in Mumbai. In Indonesia, a junior officer of the Navy makes a statement. But why is the PM or the defence minister, or the foreign minister not making a comprehensive statement?" he said.

When asked what he thought the government was attempting to conceal, Chidambaram replied: "I think, and this is speculation, I think they are hiding the fact that we made tactical mistakes (during Operation Sindoor), and we re-strategised...

The CDS gave a hint about it. What were the tactical errors? What changes were made to the strategy? Either the BJP government lacks the competence to answer these questions or it is deliberately avoiding them," Chidambaram said.

He also raised concerns about the National Investigation Agency's (NIA) involvement in the probe.

"They are unwilling to disclose what the NIA has done all these weeks. Have they identified the terrorists, where they came from? For all we know, they could be homegrown terrorists. Why do you assume that they came from Pakistan? There's no evidence of that," he said.

Chidambaram further added: "They are also hiding the losses. I said it in a column that in a war, losses will occur on both sides. I understand that India would have suffered losses. Be upfront."


Earlier in April, the Indian central government, under Modi, reportedly admitted that a security failure played a role in the terror attack in Pahalgam, located in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), which resulted in the deaths of 26 people, most of them tourists.

The conflict
In May this year, Pakistan and India engaged in the military confrontation triggered by April's Pahalgam attack in IIOJK.

In response to the Indian aggression, Pakistan's armed forces launched a large-scale retaliatory military action, named "Operation Bunyan-um-Marsoos", and targeted several Indian military targets across multiple regions.

Pakistan downed its six fighter jets, including three Rafales, and dozens of drones. After at least 87 hours, the war between the two nuclear-armed nations ended on May 10 with a ceasefire agreement brokered by the US.

The ceasefire was first announced by US President Donald Trump on social media after Washington held talks with both sides, but India has differed with Trump's claims that it resulted from his intervention and threats to sever trade talks.

However, Pakistan has acknowledged Trump's efforts and formally recommended him for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize, citing his role in defusing tensions between Pakistan and India last month.


None of them are, it's a load of bollocks and likely resident Kashmiris angry at what's going on.
 
None of them are, it's a load of bollocks and likely resident Kashmiris angry at what's going on.
I'm gonna be honest, this is going to be even worse look for Pakistan if the attackers weren't even theirs. Modi somehow won the escalation game, he attacked multiple large air bases, and threatened war should any attack take place in India. Pakistan should have given a much much stronger response. Sure, they've won a victory with downing 6 Rafales, but it wasn't apparently strong enough of a deterrent.
 
I'm gonna be honest, this is going to be even worse look for Pakistan if the attackers weren't even theirs. Modi somehow won the escalation game, he attacked multiple large air bases, and threatened war should any attack take place in India. Pakistan should have given a much much stronger response. Sure, they've won a victory with downing 6 Rafales, but it wasn't apparently strong enough of a deterrent.
only if 'your reading/understanding of the events' was as robust as USA and China!
 
Living in fool's paradise? Iran barely succeeded defending itself and that too with a lot of support from other countries including Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

The reality is that the India-Israel evil nexus kept misguiding the willing Iranians and betrayed the Iranian trust by using Iranian territory to create deep-rooted and vast spy/terrorist networks not only in Iran but also in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Those networks were continuously used to launch massive terrorist attacks in Pakistan for decades under the patronage of stupid Iranians and, when the time came, against Iranians too.

It is clearly the strategic interest of both India and Israel to bring all Muslims, including Shias and Sunnis, living between the territorial borders of India and Israel (and beyond including Turkey and African countries) under their fascist control. Modi's attack on Pakistan and then Zionist attack on Iran are the parts of the same grand plan.

We have shockingly heard the demands of greater Israel after the Gaza genocide even louder than ever before. India, on the other hand, has a map of Akhand Bharat hanging on the walls of the Indian parliament building. These two evil states don't even bother to hide their expansionist policies from the world. The evil Nazi souls have re-incarnated in Zionist and Hindutva war criminals. The civilized world should indeed be grateful to Pakistan for saving it from the dangers of facing an evil alliance of two fascist, criminal-minded supremist, expansionist, and war criminal states, India and Israel, and ending up fighting for the survival of humanity.

Now that Iranians have come to their senses and started dismantling Indian terrorists networks on the Iranian territory, It is more probably that Zionists might have created their own terrorist networks there. If RAW and Mossad can use cheap Afghans for terrorist activities in Iran, it can then almost certainly be assumed that Zionists have created their own terrorist networks involving Afghans for launching similar attacks in Pakistan as they recently launched on Iranian high value targets. The signs of Israeli operated terrorist networks are getting clearer by the day.

Since Israel has come into the open in waging an active war against Pakistan (i.e., first Israeli military experts reportedly deployed in India before the 6/7 May terrorist Indian attacks on Pakistan and now through the terrorist attacks in Pakistan by using Afghans), it is high time for Pakistan to actively start supporting Syrians, Iraqis, Yemenis, and any other country that is willing to take on the illegitimate entity with advanced weapon systems. War criminals understand only the bloody language of iron fist.
by the end iran had the upper hand, they were pelting israel with missiles and israel did not have interceptors, if the war prolonged even trump said things started getting really bad for israel last 3 days of the war.
 
I'm gonna be honest, this is going to be even worse look for Pakistan if the attackers weren't even theirs. Modi somehow won the escalation game, he attacked multiple large air bases, and threatened war should any attack take place in India. Pakistan should have given a much much stronger response. Sure, they've won a victory with downing 6 Rafales, but it wasn't apparently strong enough of a deterrent.
we also sent rockets to their positions, supply depot, missile depot and airbases even the colonel herself said we hit "Adampur, Udhampur, Bhuj" Successfully and this was with rockets not even proper cruise missiles they used
 
by the end iran had the upper hand, they were pelting israel with missiles and israel did not have interceptors, if the war prolonged even trump said things started getting really bad for israel last 3 days of the war.

Israel could have nuked Iran. They also had full air superiority over them.

They were absorbing the blows to build a case for US bombers to attack their nuclear sites.

Iran is another paper tiger. There are many countries on this planet, even with an airforce who are equally as vunerable.
 
Israel could have nuked Iran. They also had full air superiority over them.

They were absorbing the blows to build a case for US bombers to attack their nuclear sites.

Iran is another paper tiger. There are many countries on this planet, even with an airforce who are equally as vunerable.
no i believe irans strikes were on merit, what country would let you hit their interior ministry building, or a hospital i know its still israel but i dont think even they are that dumb, those hypersonic missiles were real good in my view
 
Israel could have nuked Iran. They also had full air superiority over them.

They were absorbing the blows to build a case for US bombers to attack their nuclear sites.

Iran is another paper tiger. There are many countries on this planet, even with an airforce who are equally as vunerable.

IF the israelis were this capable and Iran was a paper tiger then the israelis would be doing to Iran what they are doing to the Palestinians in Gaza.

The reason why the israelis have not YET used nukes on Iran is because the israelis cannot be 100% certain that Iran doesn't already have a nuclear device which they can fire back at the israelis.
 

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