Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Thank you again, for an extremely educational comment.
To confirm what you said:
Since "UN proscribed LET uses mosques" then that of course gives every country in the world, particularly India, the full right to target every mosque and school in Pakistan on the declaration that these are terrorist centers, So India is doing just that, entirely in accordance with the UN Charter, and "basic human decency ". This law applies globally to the entire world including mosques in Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Bosnia et.

India could target the Faisal Mosque in Islamabad too.
But we Pakistanis are "terrorists" so we will do what "terrorists" do. We will respond to the innocent "anti-terrorist Indian" with an equivalent destruction of their religious places.
India can destroy the Badshahi mosque in Lahore, but it's not the same thing psychologically as the destruction of the Ram Temple in Ayodhya. ( once again ! ).
A parallel:
The Buddhist Myanmar Army demolished hundreds of mud and thatch Rohingya "terrorist" mosques in Myanmar, These were not psychologically as damaging as the Taliban's destruction of the Bamyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan

So unless India targets Mecca in Saudi Arabia ( we would love ❤️ to see India do that ! ) there are no psychologically equivalent targets in Pakistan. Meanwhile our missile programming crews have pre-programmed the coordinates into our missiles to hit Ayodhya, Mathura, Kashi, Dwarka, Kedarnath, Amarnath, Kedarnath, Badrinath, and maybe Puri, Tirupati and Madurai. Nepal with Pashupatinath would be untouched.
In the next round it is interesting to see where this is going.
Don't want to get religious in violation of forum rules, but Martyrdom is a concept that is hard to explain. Historically it is easier. The Mongols were initially victorious, killing over 90% of the then Muslim global population destroying Baghdad Damascus, and all the cities home to the culture and civilization of the era. . If history is written by the victors then history records that the Mongols themselves intermarried and converted to the faith of those they were trying to oppress. This eventually resulted in the destruction of every single Mongol Tenger shrine confining Mongols back to their barren steppes in landlocked Mongolia.

By the way the Chinese have Mount Kailash and they use the peak for high altitude missile defence, and surveillance. Chinese have built crew quarters there, complete with washrooms. The Chinese use the water from the nearby Lake Mansarovar for their washroom water supply.
India's retaliation for this act of sacrilege is yet awaited for 62 years. There are no calls for sanctions on China either 😊
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A bit of history here:
In South Asian culture the mutual demolition of houses of worship is a common practice in warfare. House of worship demolitions have been going on for thousands of years, This originally started when Jains, Buddhists and Hindus were at loggerheads with one another for 1000 years after King Ashoka, died in 232 BCE. Temples were often demolished or changed hands though militarily inconsequential they were captured with ruthless efficiency to deal a psychological blow to the conquered .
When the "invaders " from the north west arrived they found some temples had vast treasures of gold and silver offered by devotees. These select temples were captured or demolished primarily for their treasures with a veneer of religious anti-idolatry fervor added for appearances.
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Bla Bla Bla ... but no answer to specific question I asked. Anyhow, no surprise there. India has no need to hit larger mosques when we have provided them with dozens of other targets with confirm markaz of Jihadi organizations. As for your nonsense in bold text above... Do you even realize how much India had to pay diplomatically for hitting mosques in Pakistan despite many of the targets had a history of being "Markaz" of Jihadi organizations? Why no country stood with India? Have you consider it? No! Else you could have spare us this utter nonsense of hitting soft targets in India instead of hitting Indian military nodal points. Your country has a history sir along with its Jihadi background ... this is a burden of history we carry ... India on the other hand has no such baggage from old times. Nothing happens out of the context as you are desperately trying to prove here just to win an argument.
 
Please prepare yourself for the most bizarre response mankind has ever heard …….


His response was rather intriguing, where he schooled the opposition for asking the wrong question.

“I want to tell the opposition that if you have to ask a question, then ask this question: was Operation Sindoor successful? The answer is, yes. If you have a question to ask, ask this: Have the terrorists who wiped the sindoor off our sisters and daughters been dealt with by our forces in Operation Sindoor, eliminating their masters? The answer is, yes. If you have a question to ask, ask this: were any of our brave soldiers harmed in this operation? The answer is, no, none of our soldiers were harmed,” he said.

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He then went on to say something that appeared to be an admission of the claim that India had indeed incurred some losses. “The result matters in the outcome of any examination. If a child scores good marks in an exam, then for us, those marks should matter. We should not focus on the fact that their pencil broke or their pen got lost during the exam. Ultimately, the result matters, and the result is that during Operation Sindoor, our armed forces fully achieved the objectives they had set,” he said.”


 
India only resorted to missile strikes because its AF totally failed. It was a pitiful attempt to salvage some semblance of dignity from epic humiliation. The resulting damage was limited and ‘easily repairable during operations’. All the rest - importance of targets, proximity to GHQ, ifs buts and would haves are BS cope only invented by Indians and for Indians still struggling to face upto the humbling slapping they were dealt. Second one since 2019 & much more severe this time. ‘Slow learners’ indeed.
With your air superiority between the 7th and 10th, what stopped your air force from taking out the entirety of Indian military installations and the remnants of the poor IAF? You could have achieved several decades of total dominance over India with that—much like the Israelis did after the Six-Day War. It must have been your large-heartedness that kept you from finishing off the IAF, pulverizing the Indian Army, or liberating Kashmir.
 
Look at these dumb f**** who are implying that they hit some sort of nuke facilities of US in Pakistan. And that's the reason for trump's mood swings.

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With your air superiority between the 7th and 10th, what stopped your air force from taking out the entirety of Indian military installations and the remnants of the poor IAF? You could have achieved several decades of total dominance over India with that—much like the Israelis did after the Six-Day War. It must have been your large-heartedness that kept you from finishing off the IAF, pulverizing the Indian Army, or liberating Kashmir.
Answer is very simple and has been provided at least 120 times before.
We were not the aggressors...... We were nit the invaders...... We did not consider ourselves as "Israel" and India as "Palestine".
We told countless times we did not want to escalate things which would certainly lead to nuclear war.
There will be a nuclear war in future, for sure, but Pakistan will never take the blame. Blame will always be upon India.
Plus we have a bad habit to take pity on India 😉
 
From "none" to "seven".
So finally it comes true that India lost 7 jets (not 6) against Pakistan in operation vidwa.
4 Rafales
1 Su-30 mki
1 Mig29
1 Mirage 2000
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Answer is very simple and has been provided at least 120 times before.
We were not the aggressors...... We were nit the invaders...... We did not consider ourselves as "Israel" and India as "Palestine".
We told countless times we did not want to escalate things which would certainly lead to nuclear war.
There will be a nuclear war in future, for sure, but Pakistan will never take the blame. Blame will always be upon India.
Plus we have a bad habit to take pity on India 😉
India follows a No First Use policy for nuclear weapons, which essentially means that any nuclear exchange in South Asia would most likely have to be initiated by Pakistan. Ironically, it’s Pakistan that constantly invokes its nuclear arsenal and urges the international community to intervene, portraying the region as perpetually on the brink. But by the stated policies of both countries, a nuclear exchange won’t begin unless Pakistan fires first — so in that sense, we’re secure, at least on paper.


But then, why didn't you take the initiative this time? Historically, it has always been Pakistan that made the first move — be it the First Kashmir War, the conflict in Kutch, Operation Gibraltar, or even Kargil. And while each of these bold moves ended in its own lesson, they remain Pakistan-initiated.


Isn't it the official position of your state that Kashmir is the jugular vein of Pakistan? Then why pass up the opportunity to “liberate” this so-called jugular vein from a supposedly battered and weakened India? If the cause is that sacred, and India that vulnerable, then why didn’t the state of Pakistan walk the talk and attempt to decisively settle scores with its arch-rival?


Pardon the bluntness, but we both know where things really stand — in terms of capabilities, intent, and domestic narratives. Neither country has been entirely honest with its people. And so we continue to cling to a cause where the status quo has, in reality, ossified — even though both sides pretend otherwise.

I've been looking for some sane voices on this forum over the past few days, but honestly, I haven’t found any — on either side. It’s sad, but the way things are going, it really feels like we’re inching closer to war. Unfortunate, yes — but at this point, it almost seems inevitable
 
With your air superiority between the 7th and 10th, what stopped your air force from taking out the entirety of Indian military installations and the remnants of the poor IAF? You could have achieved several decades of total dominance over India with that—much like the Israelis did after the Six-Day War. It must have been your large-heartedness that kept you from finishing off the IAF, pulverizing the Indian Army, or liberating Kashmir.
Don’t ask questions that you already know the answer to. U know very well where this level of escalation leads and Pakistan at least is not that reckless. It defended itself robustly against unfair ( as no proof was shared and offer of independent inquiry rejected )aggression and gave the aggressor a bloody nose as well as bloody backside, that’s what they deserved, live with it & cope better.
 
This and similar threads has gone a lot silent since yesterday due to embarrassment to several Indian trolls.
7 jet losses (including 3 Rafales) accepted by India. Soon they will also accept S-400 cheeseburger radar and bias Brahmos storage facility destruction.
My sincere condolences to to 7 dead IAF pilots including Shivangi.... and Rambabu Kumar Singh (S-400 operator) and his other dead fellows.
 

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