Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Cookie Monster
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How is it a false narrative?
...u would have to provide evidence in order to prove it false. Like flight data, launch coordinates, etc.
...which last I checked India wouldn't even confirm the number of jets lost to Pakistan.
As for the 290KM range...IAF for sure did not engage since after the first day of skirmish...
...this is why we saw a huge shift into lobbing missiles/drones.
...this was even alluded to by several statements from IAF personnel.
...that is not to say IAF couldn't get airborne at all...it probably could in certain areas where terrain might provide cover, or find some blindspot in radar coverage, etc. to quickly lob a missile(such as Brahmos ALCM) and turn and burn.
...we r talking in general here...that since after the first day IAF(in general) kept well away from the border.
As for Brahmos ALCM's 290km range...IIRC India tested the extended range version of it back in 2022, which was speculated to be 450km range. So that too is possible that India has at least some extended range versions of Brahmos ALCMs.
There are too many unknowns...if u wish to establish truth and show Pakistan's false narratives...then ask India/IAF to release the relevant information in the public domain. Let the independent experts go over it...and truth would be available for all to see.
...until then...don't tell us what is true or false...when India continues to hide everything.
Cash gk
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The whole world already knows that the Pakistan Air Force shot down Indian jets. But if today’s corrupt rulers and mandate thieves try to tell the world, it will be a very risky game — because everyone knows that even their own families don’t trust them. Their involvement will not strengthen the truth, it will only damage the cause. That’s why the Pakistan Air Force must keep its distance from these liars, so its credibility and honor remain intact.
We have videos of downed Indian aircraft: interior minister
Mohsin Naqvi praises the work of intelligence services during war, says they had information about Indian activity "ahead of time".www.dawn.com
Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi on Sunday said that Pakistan has video footage of the six Indian aircraft shot down during a brief military confrontation between both nations in May.
The military confrontation between India and Pakistan came in May as the former, without evidence, linked the Pahalgam attack to Islamabad, which strongly denied the allegations.
Pakistan said it downed six Indian planes during the conflict, including advanced French-made Dassult Rafale jets. India’s highest-ranking general has also acknowledged that its forces suffered losses in the air, but denied losing six aircraft.
Addressing a seminar in Lahore today, Naqvi said he was involved in several matters surrounding the war with India and was privy to several key pieces on information.
“The army, air force, navy and government have all been acknowledged during the past month-and-a-half, but our intelligence agencies were doing important work behind the scenes,” he said.
“Our institutions had information on India’s (plans) well ahead of time. We knew whatever they (India) planned, what aircraft they would use. Our intelligence agencies’ role was so important, but they do not come forward. We need to acknowledge them.”
The interior minister said that when Indian planes were downed, the decision was made not to announce this without evidence.
“We had radar data, but we needed field evidence,” he explained. “Within minutes, we received video footage of all six planes which were shot down. We have this footage.”
Naqvi then outlined two incidents where seven Indian missiles struck a Pakistani base, adding that once they were launched, it became clear they were heading across the border.
“People got worried, we have important hardware at this base,” he said, not mentioning the base’s name or location. “Not a single missile hit that base. Some fell short, some hit outside the base.
“When we launched our missiles, we targeted military installations near populated areas, but made every effort to avoid civilian casualties,” Naqvi added. “We destroyed one of their biggest oil depots and there were no civilian casualties. That is when we knew that God was helping us.”
The interior minister added that Nur Khan Airbase near Rawalpindi, which was struck by Indian missiles, suffered no damage.
“We had damage at one base where a member of the air force was martyred, but that’s about it,” he said.
On the night of May 6-7, New Delhi launched a series of air strikes on Pakistan, killing at least 40 civilians. Both sides then exchanged missiles, which stretched over the week, before a US-brokered ceasefire had both sides agree to stop the hostilities.
In July, United States President Donald Trump said that five jets were shot down during the conflict. He made his remarks at a dinner with some Republican US lawmakers at the White House, but did not specify which side’s jets he was referring to.
While describing Pakistan’s response to the Indian Air Force, PAF Director General Public Relations Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb Ahmed on May 12 said the PAF’s response was based “on the time and place of own choosing”, displaying “bold, aggressive and unwavering resolve of the brave military leadership”.
Last month, Chinese air force chief Lieutenant General Wang Gang lauded the “exemplary performance” during the aerial clash, praising the “decisive and measured response delivered by PAF pilots under the resolute leadership of the air chief”.
Salza
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Though our official stance is that she is not in our custody but social media buzz about her possible capture is interesting. Even some Indian accounts are still questioning about her whereabouts.
I haven't read the thread, but I can't see a good reason to make this statement if the videos are not getting released. Everyone outside India already accepts Indian planes were shot down, so what good can come out of it other than someone pointing to these statements and saying the videos are not released, therefore no proof.
Viet
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re-emerged? hold on a second.
in case you missed it. Putin resides over Russia when he was a young man, now he ages a lot. he is an old man. he will rule Russia until he falls out of a window or die of heart attack like Stalin. what has he done for Russia? in real terms Russia economy has grown 1% a year, while countries as China or India hundreds of times over the years.
instead, he spends almost $2 billion a day for the invasion of Ukraine. Imagine what you can do for $1 billion a day or $365 billion a year.
Justin TruDont
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What the opposition was going to ask how many PAF jets IAF shot downPathetic coping
You have no idea how low someone who is desperate for power can go.
We have seen plenty of speeches from Imran khan praising India
Even if he is let out and forced to move to London.
He is going to question what cover up Munir has been doing
Raj-Hindustani
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And it was denied by your government that no indian pilots in Pakistan.
But still fanboys, jumping!
Salza
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Anything coming from Indian govt /Air chief side has way less credibility. Not that Pakistani Govt is all gospel of truth but Indian side is way less reliable than us.
Raj-Hindustani
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That's preety funny that still people believe on it
I hope, india.n government just ignore it, souch problems and challenges in human lives, if someone happy on it... Let them be happy
Metal 0-1
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Nearest Bell Ranger squadron is 1000km away.
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muhammed45
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I know that EU hates Russia and this hatred has its roots in the history.
But believe me, Putin is the main loser of this show.
Russians are going to lose something. I don't know what but i am sure that sole beneficiary of this silly meeting is USA, not EU not Russ.
These comments are my personal opinions, FYI Iran doesn't officially recognize Ukrainian lands as Russian lands and Iran always insists that Ukrainian issue must be solved through dialogue.
May i remind you of a sobering fact,
In both wars, WW1 and WW2, Jews played a vital role. They actually took the advantage and exploited opportunity in Europe to the highest order. Europeans had potential of military conflict for whatever reason hence it was a great chance to be exploited. And Jews like always bribed and gave Europeans an other chance of being strengthened. In WW1 Napeleon received loans after loans from Jews. In WW2 Jews fooled both sides. Haavara agreement with Hitler for example.
Now Jews want that again. They have prepared the ground for transfer of power from US to occupied lands. USA is floating in debt. All they need is a war between western idiots to bring them down simultaneously. Keep in mind, Iran is the sole barrier at the moment.
Americans and the retarded Evangelists are cannot fodders of Jews. In Jewish perspective, Christians are lowlives, the lowlives to be sacrificed for the holyland and the greater Israel plan.
Iran didn't fall but everything else is going on according to the plan.
TAC
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So Imran Khan is going to question how many PAF jets IAF shot down because Munir managed to cover them up???
You & your pals are so desperate to mitigate the humiliation they are forced to now live with that you engage in outright fantasy. Same as your pathetic excuse of a AC. Delusional ’s.Baibers_1260
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What's her graduation batch year from the NDA or AFA ? Just curious.
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