Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Distant_Observer said:
History will remember them as a military failure.
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I just don't think they will be remembered much.

5 years ago or less you had this young vibrant civilizational state, all set to take on China's industrial and trade capacity, dominate the region and challenge in Asia, who is Pakistan btw?



Things have changed.


They can cause correct but they literally have to do it like now, even two to three years the changes will be hard to reverse
 
" "As far as air defence part is concerned, we have evidence of one long-range strike … along with that five fighters, high-tech fighters between F-16 and JF-17 class, our system tells us,” Singh told reporters at the Indian Air Force annual day press conference. However, he did not share the said evidence. "

Source: Dawn.

Obfuscation of reality. The clown in charge of IAF (AP Singh) is speaking to the world in mashed potato because he has no evidence of a single downed PAF aircraft, not one iota!

Pakistan has been explicit to the point of probable serial numbers and personnel killed.

WTF even are "high-tech fighters between F-16 and JF-17 class"...

...an F-16.5 perhaps??
 
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The Indians keep digging themselves a hole. All the Indian Air Force chief needs to do is parade the serial numbers of the planes Pakistan shot down and humiliate PAF for ever. But he can’t do so because he knows his Air Force got the rear end whopping of a lifetime and had to ground his Air Force for two full days out of the 4 day war, per his military chief’s own admission.
 
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This supposed “South Asia expert” likes to speak out of his rear end. The notion he can claim “certainly possible” that PAF fighters were destroyed is quite outlandish. Only thing destroyed is his credibility. There are visual evidence of multiple IAF fighter jets shot down but not a single PAF asset.
 
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Another nobody spitting ridiculous claims again. The only Pakistani fighter destroyed was clearly in India wet dreams. That's the best they can get.

Can't believe they are still harping on this 5 months after the conflict is over. But why am I not surprised? They have been crying since 1947 when Pakistan was created.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
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your airforce clown chief, willing to accept these?

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(geo locate that AH!)
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@harpy1

do you have access to these videos?!
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Nope videos not accessible
 
This whole thing again. Fricking boring as hell.

He needs to make these absurd statements 6 months later as shortly he will start having to officially reveal IAF losses....
 
Vkdindian1 said:
Claims of evidence seem to depend on which side one belongs to and is he asking or providing evidence.

When it comes to damage to own side, most posters want the other side to show the picture of the aircraft through the hole in the hangar roof to accept any damage.

When it comes to damage to other side, 1+1 can become 100 and all the capabilities of extrapolation come into play.

Equipment kept in open space may be deemed to be smashed to smithereens but stuff inside a hangar can escape with minor damages.
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As someone who has actually been at Shahbaz, knows how things work there and have spoken to people there - i can only laugh at Chief sahb's random guesses about 4-5 F-16s destroyed in hangar - but again, the guy who claimed 6 aircrafts in air without a shred of debris of single one, can claim dozen more on ground - who cares for lies they are.

Applying the same logic of Chief Sahb - I hope IAF counts 12 aircrafts less in the inventory of PAF when drawing up next battle plans.
 
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side-winder said:
As someone who has actually been at Shahbaz, knows how things work there and have spoken to people there - i can only laugh at Chief sahb's random guesses about 4-5 F-16s destroyed in hangar - but again, the guy who claimed 6 aircrafts in air without a shred of debris of single one, can claim dozen more on ground - who cares for lies they are.

Applying the same logic of Chief Sahb - I hope IAF counts 12 aircrafts less in the inventory of PAF when drawing up next battle plans.
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From the looks of it, he is thinking about after his retirement life, with statement like these he can become a regular on any Indian media and might even get a ticket from BJP.
 
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