Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Won't matter if its conventional or nuclear......it will be a messy situation for both countries. Pakistan must be ready and able to use all its built up arsenal and surprise the enemy yet again.......this time there is simply no room for any kind of restraints at all anywhere.....all 3 services must go all out.

I think other flashpoints in the world may also trigger and go full on once this war starts. If Pak starts running out of ammo it will have to use strategic weapons.
Indian BJP Govt is willing to risk entire world peace for its showoff games.

I hope our boys are ready and alert. Hopefully China and Turkey have been informed as well as to the latest situation and alerts. China may ultimately have to come to our rescue if things dont go as per Pakistan's plans.......let's c.

I also think that they will also push the afghan/talibans to attack us as well, whether at the border or internally.......its a critical juncture for our nation as well.
 
NA71 said:
This the 4th time they are issuing NOTAM for this region since May 2025 conflict....they are looking for some opportunity else where.....

If they start/open naval front yhey will have to sustain equal or more destruction....Gujrat port and refinery will be gone immediately....

General perception is that they want a longer war ...not 3 or 4 days.....Sialkot land or piece of land in Kashmir ...for chest thumping....show of power to the world ....
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Take the bull by its horns. Take out modi next time.

End of game !
 
TallGuy said:
@NA71

food for thought!

when 7th May air battle was starting , PAF clearly distinguished 4 raid vectors

1st Raid. 8 x Rafale, 4 x Mirage 2000, 4 x MiG-29UPG, 8 x Su-30MKI, 1 x Heron TP (HALE), 4 x Heron Mk 2 (MALE)
this was vectoring over karshmir
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2nd Raid. 6 x Mirage 2000, 8 x Su-30MKI
this was vectoring opposite lahore
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3rd Raid. 6 x Rafale, 16 x Su-30MKI
This was vectoring opposite bhawalnagar
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4th Raid. 16 x Su-30MKI
Opposite Panu Aqil/Sukkur (Reference)

ACM choose the Kashmir as Focus AOR (1st Raid) where they intend to inflict most damage.
2nd Raid was not engaged.
3rd Raid was partially engaged
4th Raid was not even Touched at all.

The reason i write this - enemy learns fast

its a no brainer now!
We can say ACM should have given kill all order but my issuing assured kill/deny own loss order, he effectively bought what it is to come in near future.

do you think PAF will redeploy No.15 Sqn to South and left Center or north barren. they tend to thin the PAF out. we have 1 x Sqn (JF17 Block 3 earmarked for south - which in not even full strength) then we have Block 2 and F16s, May be a single battery of HQ9BE or 2-3 batteries of HQ16FE but they are all in deep green belt.

Now you must realize they have chance of victory! never ever underestimate the enemy!
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Exactly Sir, the first thing ....we should stop celebrating May 2025 and move on with totally new workbook.

You know the biggest fear ....they start with attacking on Bholari and Masroor AirFields ....to limit PAF ops capabilities...and rest is not in our favour....

The are coming up with much more aggressive designs....Bhramos or other missile are potential threat with our limited ADS.....

The immediate counter measure ...is again our aggressive show of power......

What about Hydrogen B test.....even do not go for it but ....make it a guess ....use social media.... (just a ramdon idea)

Orherwise ... India is not going to backoff ....
 
Vortex said:
Take the bull by its horns. Take out modi next time.

End of game !
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Taking out modi wont cut it...you need the gandhi goverment back....modi and his bjp/rss goons will try to act innocent and false falg us after that....yogi is a bigger problem then modi cuz hes more into hindutva.....we need to strengthen ourselves first before weakening others
 
arsalan345 said:
I don't think that it's smoke and mirrors. They are interested in the same area. Calculations are clearly based on nuke strikes. Close proximity to karachi means pakistan will not go nuclear so i am expecting Indian ground invasion in the same area, covering Sindh. If they managed to capture coastal strip, this will be game over for us.

I don't think that they need excuse this time like terror attack in kashmir etc. Their intentions are clear. They are coming to grab our land and they are ready for months long war. This is why i advised to move on from 6-0 and pay attention to their preparation. It looks like preparation of an all out war based on specific region. They know we will not escalate to other sectors but if we repel them back, they will open sialkot sector. Enemy is so clever. They are doing it all infront of us. Those who are wise know what's coming.

They are too close to the border and it clearly means Invasion of sindh. I call it operation Amok. Pakistan should prepare for operation Amok.

I urge senior members to identify our objectives during this months long war against India. Well we tried peace but now India is acting wild so be wild. Close proximity to coastal areas means Indian navy involvement. Karachi should get ready. Corrupt PPP should use sirens and build shelters on emergency basis. Time has come.
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Showing world that we are achey bachey and do not want war...is actually suicidal approach.....

RANN OF KUTCH ....might be the target as someone posted above....if it goes ....taking it back will almost be impossible....will invite use of tactical nuke....

Situation is now grim ...both Air chief and FM ate out of country .....
 
NA71 said:
Exactly Sir, the first thing ....we should stop celebrating May 2025 and move on with totally new workbook.

You know the biggest fear ....they start with attacking on Bholari and Masroor AirFields ....to limit PAF ops capabilities...and rest is not in our favour....

The are coming up with much more aggressive designs....Bhramos or other missile are potential threat with our limited ADS.....

The immediate counter measure ...is again our aggressive show of power......

What about Hydrogen B test.....even do not go for it but ....make it a guess ....use social media.... (just a ramdon idea)

Orherwise ... India is not going to backoff ....
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one thing i know this time F-16s will be fighting besides JF17s Block 1/2/3, they have found out that they can spread thin - PAF resources

Prepare for losses mentally!

they found out in 1971 (not able to exploit it to full), they found out in BRASSTACKS, they Found out in 1999, They found out it 2001-2002, They found out it 2019 (with leadership that wants a victory) and then in 2025 (same leadership), now they have every reason to restore their pride same leadership will do it (exploit this to achieve their political and military goals) see now i have military goals (they want their pride restored) ask Egyptians of 1973 how much they wanted their pride restored after 1967. Anwar sadaat told his most capable Gen.. give me 20km of sinai back and i will win over politically.

remember we have inflicted defeat military first time upon India in our history (78+ years)

something gotta give!
 
NA71 said:
Exactly Sir, the first thing ....we should stop celebrating May 2025 and move on with totally new workbook.

You know the biggest fear ....they start with attacking on Bholari and Masroor AirFields ....to limit PAF ops capabilities...and rest is not in our favour....

The are coming up with much more aggressive designs....Bhramos or other missile are potential threat with our limited ADS.....

The immediate counter measure ...is again our aggressive show of power......

What about Hydrogen B test.....even do not go for it but ....make it a guess ....use social media.... (just a ramdon idea)

Orherwise ... India is not going to backoff ....
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India wont back off by nucke threat or a hydrogen b threat they will just wait so time could do its thing....the WILL start with the SEAD ,DEAD and the airbases..cuz they know they cant beat us in the air so dont make them get into the air....brahmos is just the tip of the iceberg...they have quite a few conventional ballistic missile variants...whether prithvi,Pralay or there guided pinakas...India the bitch it is wants a long conventional war due to its deeper prockets and depth.....we should ramp up our shorad and mid range ad first...random videos is just dirty air in this day of social media....we should have a large guided artillary stockpile even the fatah 1s would suffice....with this much ad can we stop indians attacking our future fifth gen aircrafts?????? 1 brahmos/scalp or rudram3 on a HAS and 100 million dollars gone....we need a waiting period for the forces..these smaller conflicts strain our economy and inventory...i aint scared of the braindead indians but i just dont want more losses of ground staffs,soliders and machinery due to poor decision making and slow workethics of babus
 
The question is how can we stop a mad elephant rolling into our land ....shouting only or taking it out with head shot.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
not a proper nuke but definitely a tactical nuke . no way we will lose any land and not reply
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They could be practicing an invasion....near this area an excersise was also conducted by IAF a month or 2 back or was it a different area ?
 
NA71 said:
Remember ...do not expect someone else will come and join our war.....help and support will be very limited ....not even from Saudia......
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Correct and that is why Army FM stated quite clearly about the consequences (all this as deterrence!)

we all know - Nukes can't be used in this environment.

until unless we have got the Alien Tech which could after striking TNW could be used to sufficiently vanish the radiation pretty SCIFI stuff.

Otherwise conflict/skirmish are called Wars and victories are celebrated like a cricket match and losses are forgotten after some hue & cry - this is was we are - nothing serious!

That's the spin (All is well!)
 
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