Pakistan - Iran News / Discussion

[SaadH]

Tbf the current PAK-US diplomatic revival is purely an economic one for now that isn't really any different then Iranians have been doing with India.

What does a narco-remiitances-mafia state have any economic value to offer any trading partner?

 

[Guynextdoor]

It means ISI have full access in Chabahar to keep an eye on your Kulbhushans.

You think so buddy? Chabahar is now half the Tonnage of Karachi port and the fastest growing port in the region. India has commited to Iran it will be far bigger than Karachi and has ensured nearby Gawadar remains dead in water. You really think Iran will jeopardize this massive economic asset for your friendship?

 

[MH.Yang]

Iran's relationship with India begs the question. Why would the Iranian government want to develop such a close relationship with an ally of Israel?

 

[Samurai]

I have no issues with Iran... If they can solve the misunderstandings regarding the Baluchistan insurgency with Pakistan and develop a framework mechanism to share intel and conduct joint COIN ops to keep both sides of their border secure, then its a fair good deal tbh. The other thing Pakistan should consider is nurturing economic relations with Iran, because that would offset the trade imbalance with Afghanistan and Iran can provide Pakistan with a lot including energy, like for e.g. the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline has been in limbo because of fear of sanctions. Iran has a big history and its people are descendants of the ancient civilizations and having such a culturally rich neighbor is a benefit. I believe Pakistan should be closely aligned with both Saudi Arabia and Iran which will also help foster relations between both and Pakistan can play a role in that.

 

[Meengla]

Look at 19 countries that constitute the G-20 and ask yourself when was the last time heads of government/state from those countries ever showed up in Pakistan

Because Pakistan's economy and security situation has been really bad. But things are definitely turning around now, especially in geopolitics. As I said above, the only constant in the world is change.

The people in both countries (Pakistan and Iran) care about each other and it is always a concern when one is attacked by other enemies.
When Pakistan was under attack by india, i'm sure the Iranian people prayed for Pakistan, and similarly Pakistanis were cheering for Iranian defenses and missiles when it was hitting the zionists.

Right. People who were following the press of both countries could tell the support you are mentioning.

You think so buddy? Chabahar is now half the Tonnage of Karachi port and the fastest growing port in the region. India has commited to Iran it will be far bigger than Karachi and has ensured nearby Gawadar remains dead in water. You really think Iran will jeopardize this massive economic asset for your friendship?

Chahbahar's success doesn't hurt Karachi port and may well benefit Gwadar by Gwadar becoming some kind of 'spill-over' or 'sister port'. Also, you would be mistaken to think Iran is going to support India against Pakistan especially now.

Iran's relationship with India begs the question. Why would the Iranian government want to develop such a close relationship with an ally of Israel?

India has a large economy; I think ten time Pakistan's size. Countries can't ignore their commercial benefits. I don't blame them. Only some fools here would want Pakistan to jeopardize Pakistan's vital trade relations with the West over Palestine.

I have no issues with Iran... If they can solve the misunderstandings regarding the Baluchistan insurgency with Pakistan and develop a framework mechanism to share intel and conduct joint COIN ops to keep both sides of their border secure, then its a fair good deal tbh.

"Misunderstandings" is the operative word. Neither country wants a restive border because it is not in their interests.

 

[Fatman17]

A "diplomatic blank cheque" is a metaphor for a commitment by one nation to support another with an unlimited or undefined amount of aid, resources, or political backing, without specific conditions or limits.
This term is used in international relations to describe a situation where the supporting country essentially gives the recipient country the authority to act as it sees best in a given situation, with the promise of full support regardless of the cost or outcome.

Key Aspects

• Unspecified Liability: The commitment does not have a predefined financial, military, or political limit.
• Trust/Alliance: It implies a high degree of trust or a strong alliance between the two parties, where one is willing to absorb unknown costs for the other.
• Risk of Escalation: Critics use the term to highlight the potential for the recipient country to overreach or take actions that could lead to unintended escalation, as seen in historical analyses of the alliances that catalyzed World War I.
• Contemporary Use: In modern politics, the phrase is frequently used in debates over foreign aid and military authorizations. For instance, U.S. aid to Ukraine has been described by some critics as a "blank cheque" for lacking defined end goals, while proponents argue the aid is specifically appropriated and subject to oversight.

In essence, it is a rhetorical device used to critique the over-delegation of power or an open-ended endorsement of a policy without sufficient oversight or defined constraints.

AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses.

 

[hasssanali8998]

You really think Iran will jeopardize this massive economic asset for your friendship?

 

[Meengla]

People need to be open minded about the changes happening--and they are rapidly happening--and connect the dots instead of stuck in the past. At least remove the political bias from geopolitics--that's a message to the Pakistani members here.
When the Pakistanis took a bold stand for Iran against Israel in the June 2025 conflict--and Pakistan was still cautious enough not to name America--that must have won the Iranian hearts. While Pakistan did so, India, as usual, was a snake.
I think this is an Indian channel?

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[Meengla]

People need to be open minded about the changes happening--and they are rapidly happening--and connect the dots instead of stuck in the past. At least remove the political bias from geopolitics--that's a message to the Pakistani members here.
When the Pakistanis took a bold stand for Iran against Israel in the June 2025 conflict--and Pakistan was still cautious enough not to name America--that must have won the Iranian hearts. While Pakistan did so, India, as usual, was a snake.
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But even in this generally balanced video, this Indian anchor couldn't resist saying 'Thief praising Thief'.
Iranian members here: Please take a note!

 

[F.O.X]

There’s no such thing as a “blank cheque” in diplomacy, every state ultimately operates based on its own interests. That said, Iran’s latest gesture is a positive step. The trust deficit between Pakistan and Iran has remained significant, largely due to the long standing issue of Indian assets operating from Iranian soil and Tehran’s past tolerance of Baloch militant elements.

If these two concerns are genuinely addressed, there’s no reason Pakistan and Iran can’t build a stable working relationship. However.......any improvement in ties must not come at the expense of our strategic partnership with KSA. Balanced diplomacy is the key.

 

[Fatman17]

Blank cheque probably refers to Afghanistan. In other words " do the needful "

 

[PakistanLVR]

Look at 19 countries that constitute the G-20 and ask yourself when was the last time heads of government/state from those countries ever showed up in Pakistan

typical cow worshiper - always brings up money or economics. Yet those G-19 were no-shows during May conflict. Paid lip service from the major economic allies of India. Hindus are truly incorrigible. They were beyond rich when the rag-tag Islamic armies showed up around 700ad and made beef teriyaki out of the Dharmic "warriors." Even today still Hindu brings up money and economic might.

 

[krash]

The sooner muslim world realize Pakistan is only islamic country who's existence is guaranteed till qayamat the better it will be for them.

There is no such guarantee, neither is it anywhere near being an "Islamic" country. Much more Islamic and powerful states are now only found in books. Toss these fantasies that only make an already complacent nation more so.

 

[Meengla]

typical cow worshiper - always brings up money or economics. Yet those G-19 were no-shows during May conflict. Paid lip service from the major economic allies of India. Hindus are truly incorrigible. They were beyond rich when the rag-tag Islamic armies showed up around 700ad and made beef teriyaki out of the Dharmic "warriors." Even today still Hindu brings up money and economic might.

Without using too harsh words, I believe this is a flaw in Indian diplomacy that trade relations with foreign countries are going to stop some countries from ignoring larger, longer geopolitical goals. China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh and even Iran, to name a few, are willing to give at least equal, if not better, consideration to relations with Pakistan over India.
Not every nation thinks like a 'Banya' (Merchant).

 

[PakistanLVR]

Of course you are right on all points, especially the bolded part.
As to the cynics about this foreign policy or other developments: Just 8-10 years ago, China used to be like 'Please get along with each other' when it came to India-Pakistan. Turkey used to offer basically lip support but now rushes military support to Pakistan in crunch time. Azerbaijan was distant but recently offered vocal diplomatic support--and possibly some concessional oil. Saudi Arabia was not commital about Pakistan-India but signed the Mutual Defense Treaty. Iran was semi-hostile but is certainly far from that.
Some people live in the past too much--just because things didn't work in the past doesn't mean they won't work in the future as well. And then there are those in this forum--not saying you are one of those--who can't think beyond their political bias.
To me it is obvious that Pakistan's diplomacy is doing great and that's no small thanks to Modi's Operation Sindoor folly.

I was a diehard IK fan, and still think he should be out of prison because those charges are trumped up - let's be real.

But - I'm loving the aggressiveness shown by the Pakistan state. I think there was a lot of doubt in our allies that Pakistan can be militarily effective given how they went limped the last decade in face of India's ultra aggressive pressure against Azad Kashmir and Pakistan. Pakistan was nowhere to be found against the constant pressure being applied to it by the Indians that some of us wondered if Pakistan truly become Egypt of South Asia - a sick man of Central Asia/South Asia. I even alluded to this a few times on another account because I wanted Indian blood and guts on a platter. Pakistan by exercising its military power against a foe 7x larger - made the smaller surrounding powers get in line. There was even someone saying that Pakistan has given up against the Indian hegemony in South Asia and has taken a backseat to be treated like a Bangladesh or Nepal. I am proud to see that the military kept its eyes on the ball and all those tripes that they are in for just for the money/business turned out to be 80% false (it is still a Military INC - but one that I accept now since we can't never live in peace with the ultra-Pro Kafirs right next door to the East).

The Americans [for all their faults], are earnest and mean it when they seek out the most powerful regional nations to pivot their foreign policy off.
I recalled watching the Indian FM very rudely cut off U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham about teaching Pakistan a lesson - and bragged how Indian will teach it a lesson out of two countries on the stage (US and India). Senator Graham just smirked.

Asim Munir delivered more than I could have hoped for. Those speeches he made has rattled the very psyche of these black-hearted pagans. They are shocked that Pakistan has the audacity to speak like this - because it reminds the black hearted pagans of 1000 years monotheism's strength and power which cut through the Kafirs like a hot knife through Ghee.